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  • ca7922303
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    Bought the main power board for $275.00 and all is good.

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by glebert View Post

    Part of the problem with this amp is there are multiple power supplies, correct? It goes directly from mains to a full wave rectifier, I assume that is where the 156V is coming from (but there shouldn't be +/-), the SMPS circuit with T2 creates the main +/-55V rails, T3 does the +/-15V and +300V (for the tube only). T1 is just for switch driving, I think. Verifying if the voltages that are derived from the T2 and T3 secondaries seems like the necessary next step.
    Can you clarify on the next step of verifying if the voltages are derived from T2/T3 secondaries? Thanks.

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by Jon Snell View Post
    So ... the psu is faulty yes or no.
    U8 U11 ... schematic of your board would be useful, save us guessing.
    You state 156volts. From where to where?
    Can you tell me how to determine if PSU is faulty? Also, not sure what you mean by 156v from where to where?

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  • glebert
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    Originally posted by Jon Snell View Post
    So ... the psu is faulty yes or no.
    U8 U11 ... schematic of your board would be useful, save us guessing.
    You state 156volts. From where to where?
    Part of the problem with this amp is there are multiple power supplies, correct? It goes directly from mains to a full wave rectifier, I assume that is where the 156V is coming from (but there shouldn't be +/-), the SMPS circuit with T2 creates the main +/-55V rails, T3 does the +/-15V and +300V (for the tube only). T1 is just for switch driving, I think. Verifying if the voltages that are derived from the T2 and T3 secondaries seems like the necessary next step.

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  • Jon Snell
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    So ... the psu is faulty yes or no.
    U8 U11 ... schematic of your board would be useful, save us guessing.
    You state 156volts. From where to where?

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by Jon Snell View Post
    The issue with U2 will not cause one rail to fail.
    It is caused by either a damaged Shottky rectifier, a short circuit on the Power supply output lines or a short circuit in the power amplifier.
    Where did you measure 125volts? The rail voltage is + - 55volts!

    Edit; You cannot measure the output Fets with a DVM successfully, except for a short circuit.
    U8/11(-156vdc)
    D12/60(-156vdc)
    R46(-156vdc)
    R49(+156vdc)
    Q2(-156vdc)
    Q20(0.00vdc)
    Q10/11/12(0.00vdc)
    ​​​​​
    Looks like anything northwest and west of T3 is (0.0vdc)

    What can I use to measure the output FETs? Click image for larger version  Name:	16851979774985190116851622562585.jpg Views:	0 Size:	6.04 MB ID:	983034 Photo of positive probe on R46, black probe on chassis ground. Variac @ 115vac. Click image for larger version  Name:	16851981907384822651221865835166.jpg Views:	0 Size:	4.08 MB ID:	983036 Looks like R46/U2(2)/C177 or C26 failed and we're replaced?
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    Last edited by ca7922303; 05-27-2023, 03:03 PM.

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by ca7922303 View Post

    I recently was able to resurrect a 6 pro. Is there alot of differences between those two?
    Correction: I should have said, I was involved in resurrecting a 6 pro, the expertise came from members of this forum(G1, Nevetslab, others).

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  • Jon Snell
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    The issue with U2 will not cause one rail to fail.
    It is caused by either a damaged Shottky rectifier, a short circuit on the Power supply output lines or a short circuit in the power amplifier.
    Where did you measure 125volts? The rail voltage is + - 55volts!

    Edit; You cannot measure the output Fets with a DVM successfully, except for a short circuit.

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by The Dude View Post
    Here's the SMPS schematic (attached). There is a known issue with U2, but you'll have to troubleshoot to see if that is your problem.

    [ATTACH]n982936[/ATTACH]
    This is a Revision E board with a 2a265 in a socket w/heat sink. D9 is reading (0.5v) diode test

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by Jon Snell View Post
    Just a simple test, if the Mos Fet output transistors, Q10 - 13 are OK, check the secondary diodes on the power supply board. If faulty, replace ONLY with the original type and specification.
    Q10/11/12 are switching on and off with diode test, negative probe to source, positive probe to gate(.57v), then positive probe to drain(0.00v).
    D39/40/53/54(0.005v) diode test
    D26/29/43/44/61(0.48v) diode test
    D14(0.012v) diode test
    D15(0.2v) diode test D16/17/23(0.4v) diode test
    D12/13(0.5v) diode test
    Z1/3/4/6(0.59v) diode test
    D1/60(0.4v) diode test
    D7/18/19/20(0.55v) diode test
    D2/63/64(0.5v) diode test Q13 according to schematic is a 3904 and I'm unable to find it on board to test yet.
    Last edited by ca7922303; 05-27-2023, 04:50 AM.

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  • The Dude
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    Here's the SMPS schematic (attached). There is a known issue with U2, but you'll have to troubleshoot to see if that is your problem.

    0032543-xx.pdf

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  • Jon Snell
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    Originally posted by glebert View Post

    Jon, I can't find any info about Mackie 450Mk2, is that the name of a module from a powered speaker or something? I guess Mackie and Ampeg were both part of LOUD Audio back in the day?
    PSU attached and you will see they are very similar. Click image for larger version

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  • glebert
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    Originally posted by Jon Snell View Post
    It is basically a Mackie 450Mk2 without the power factor corrector for more efficient use of power.
    If you are not experienced with Switch Mode and Class D, take it to someone more qualified or you may kill it completely.
    Jon, I can't find any info about Mackie 450Mk2, is that the name of a module from a powered speaker or something? I guess Mackie and Ampeg were both part of LOUD Audio back in the day?

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  • glebert
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    Originally posted by ca7922303 View Post

    I recently was able to resurrect a 6 pro. Is there alot of differences between those two?
    Taking a look at the 6 schematic and some other threads on it, they look completely different to me. The 6 looks like a "conventional" amp (although lots of preamp and driver tubes). The 7 is all about SMPS and class D amps, so way more "digital."

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  • ca7922303
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    Originally posted by glebert View Post
    Do you have a schematic that is correct to your board? IMHO these things are dang near unserviceable (unless this is different than the one I had). I think most people just replace the main board if they can be purchased. There are cascaded SMPS power supplies, multiple protect modes that aren't really documented, and probing is dang near impossible because of the tight layout of the FETS, heatsinks, and caps.

    I guess you could check for shorted output devices
    I recently was able to resurrect a 6 pro. Is there alot of differences between those two?

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