Correct wiring 2 x 12 fender red knob twin in series

[DrGonz78]

Almost seems unbelievable to me. Like someone is just on here to play some games. I would hope that is not the case but I have to wonder.

[Jquijano]

No games at all. Just some respect to someone who knows how to use a multimeter and common sense not being a certified tech or electronics engineer.

[DrGonz78]

I respect that completely. After all this describes me completely too. Sometimes communication on forums takes some getting used to that’s all.

[Jquijano]

I respect that completely. After all this describes me completely too. Sometimes communication on forums takes some getting used to that’s all.

I bought 2 of these Eminence 8 ohms 120 watt speaker. Same model but cone size is different. Will this affect the tone of the amp in some way?

[DrGonz78]

Well if these are new you need to break them in a bit. Did you go from 12” to 10” speakers? Of course there will be a change but maybe for the better. I always think of fenders to have too much bass or at least I roll off the bass. Possible 10” speakers will allow to turn up the bass more.

[Jquijano]

Well if these are new you need to break them in a bit. Did you go from 12” to 10” speakers? Of course there will be a change but maybe for the better. I always think of fenders to have too much bass or at least I roll off the bass. Possible 10” speakers will allow to turn up the bass more.

What i meant is the cone size. Same ohms same 120 watts but different cone size? Left is small cone and right is large. I took a pic as reference. Please advise as both speakers are 12 inch but different cone size.

[Chuck H]

I'll speculate one of those has been re coned with some non OEM parts. Just looking at the doping and dust caps I can tell you there will be a tonal difference between them. And this means a tonal difference in the amp. But then,.. They're not the stock speakers anyway so what tonal affect are you asking about?

The cones look to be the same. But it's hard to tell. You're talking about the dust caps. Small difference here in tone. But notice that one looks to have different and possibly heavier doping on the edge. This will make a bigger difference than the dust cap. However it happened, those are no longer the same speaker model.

[Jquijano]

These speaker have more bass than stock speakers. They are brand new as i bought them directly from Eminence.

[DrGonz78]

More bass response is good. Especially with fenders as they can throw a lot at it.

[Chuck H]

Well I was unable to find a single example of a V128 with the larger dust cap and light dope. Not one. But here's what I did find...



The top image is from your opening post. The next is of what you say is two of the same Eminence V128 speaker. Then you show us the backs of the speakers to "prove" they're the same. But I was unable to find an example of a V128 with the larger dust cap and light dope. And I can't imagine Eminence or one of their distributors would ship two differently made speakers for an order of two speakers. Not to mention that two speakers purchased simultaneously are so likely to be made the same. Now... The image at the bottom is a stock Fender speaker just like the one (in the same cabinet position) in your opening post. Looks just like the odd speaker that YOU told us is an Eminence V128. But "I" think maybe you've taken photos of the entire process and the second image is a photo of one Eminence V128 and the stock Fender speaker. And then you told us otherwise.

EDIT: I just checked the Eminence website. It appears they actually specify the cone surface area for their speakers minus the dust cap. So speakers with a smaller dust cap have a higher specified cone area than those with a larger dust cap. They also specify the dust cap material. The speaker on the right in the second image that you say is an Eminence V128 does not match the Eminence specs for cone area or dust cap material.

I think you're F!nG with us and not for the first time since you joined.

[Jquijano]

This is the real picture i took once i mountd the speakers. I just want to know if it is okay to have 2 speakers same power rating and ohms but different cone size or is it better 2 speakers with same large cone size?

[Chuck H]

This is the real picture i took once i mountd the speakers. I just want to know if it is okay to have 2 speakers same power rating and ohms but different cone size or is it better 2 speakers with same large cone size?

doesn't matter. The load in ohms presented to the amp is all that matters. Sound and tone are subjective. If you like the sound then it's good.

[g1]

I think you are calling the dustcap the cone.

[Jquijano]

I think you are calling the dustcap the cone.

Thats what i meant! With this new speakers the amp generates more bass. Anyhow, the push pull bass pot is bent so i will need to replace it soon. It works but its bent.

[Chuck H]

Thats what i meant! With this new speakers the amp generates more bass. Anyhow, the push pull bass pot is bent so i will need to replace it soon. It works but its bent.

Is there anything that isn't broken on this amp? We're here whatever comes up.