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    I got this lovely empty cabinet for Christmas and want to build an amp with a 12AX7, EL84, 6X4 line-up. They should use about 1.7 amps.
    I have a power transformer from a PA that used a 6K11, two EL84s and a 5y3. They used about 2.2 amps on the 6.3 volt secondary.

    I plan to not use the 5 volt secondary at all. Will the fact the tubes use less than the PT can provide be a problem?

    This is the first build I will be trying without using an all octal champ lay-out. I need to get a simple chassis cut and bent and then I am ready to try this.

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    A single EL84? Why not use a pair, like the PA your power tranny came from and build a riff off of a princeton 6G2 ?
    If it still won't get loud enough, it's probably broken. - Steve Conner
    If the thing works, stop fixing it. - Enzo
    We need more chaos in music, in art... I'm here to make it. - Justin Thomas
    MANY things in human experience can be easily differentiated, yet *impossible* to express as a measurement. - Juan Fahey

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    • #3
      I just want a single EL84 because there isn't a lot of room here and only an 8" speaker, so two more tubes would be a bit much.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Resonator Guy View Post
        I just want a single EL84 because there isn't a lot of room here and only an 8" speaker, so two more tubes would be a bit much.
        I wondered how big the cabinet was

        How exactly is it finished? Looks kind of like dragon scales...
        If it still won't get loud enough, it's probably broken. - Steve Conner
        If the thing works, stop fixing it. - Enzo
        We need more chaos in music, in art... I'm here to make it. - Justin Thomas
        MANY things in human experience can be easily differentiated, yet *impossible* to express as a measurement. - Juan Fahey

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Resonator Guy View Post
          I just want a single EL84 because there isn't a lot of room here and only an 8" speaker, so two more tubes would be a bit much.
          Check out an Epiphone Valve Jr schematic and use a diode bridge. I doubt very much if you will tell a difference between a tube rectifier and an SS rectifier in a single ended 5 watt amp. Then you just have 2 tubes. They are well regarded, much used, and totally studied and researched amps. I gig/record with one all of the time.

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          • #6
            Esherton, the finish is smoke grey MOT. I have a number of MOT amps and this one will be a beauty. The schematic pasted inside shows it was a 3 tube transformerless model originally. That I don't care to rebuild.

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            • #7
              Olddawg, I too have an Epi valve junior and use it to power a Little Lanelai rotating speaker. Works pretty well. Will the PT as described work for these tubes, do you think?

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              • #8
                I just stumbled across Steve Conner's thread about a selmer corvette amp which has the tube complement under discussion here.

                http://music-electronics-forum.com/t17670/

                Steve went on to turn it into something else, but he describes the sound of the original amp as quite distinctive!
                If it still won't get loud enough, it's probably broken. - Steve Conner
                If the thing works, stop fixing it. - Enzo
                We need more chaos in music, in art... I'm here to make it. - Justin Thomas
                MANY things in human experience can be easily differentiated, yet *impossible* to express as a measurement. - Juan Fahey

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Resonator Guy View Post
                  Olddawg, I too have an Epi valve junior and use it to power a Little Lanelai rotating speaker. Works pretty well. Will the PT as described work for these tubes, do you think?
                  I would think it would work fine. You might want to calculate your B+ using a diode rectifier. I'm sure you have enough heater current. I would consider building an 18 watt Lite or a Spitfire as well if it was a EL84 x2 amp. Especially if you could squeeze a 10" speaker in the cab and an extension jack.

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