Does expensive output transformer sounds better?

[Alan0354]

Data is hard to come by in guitar amp components. Nobody want to spend all the money to buy all the transformers to plot it out.

Even if someone willing to take the time and money. It still have variable like the speaker load and driving power variation. Question on how the transformer react to different power level and speaker load variation with different speakers and different power level.

[Alan0354]

I notice Weber OT are very reasonable priced and have good reputation also. Anyone has experience with this? I guess I am allergic to expensive OT from MM or Harmond.

[minim]

Alan I've been down this route (transformer-gazing) and reached the conclusion that I'd never know how it would sound unless I actually bought one and installed it.

If you did splash the cash and fit one, it might sound like crap to you, but great to Larry down the hall in accounting. It'll come down to a matter of taste. Unfortunately no amount of jaw-flapping by anyone, including this writer, will predict how it will sound incorporated into your design.

P.S It's pretty hard to get annoyed by SGM, if he is indeed for real. He's "out there", man. Like, too-much-acid "out there".

[überfuzz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6NyTprQCBI

[überfuzz]

Data is hard to come by in guitar amp components. Nobody want to spend all the money to buy all the transformers to plot it out.

Even if someone willing to take the time and money. It still have variable like the speaker load and driving power variation. Question on how the transformer react to different power level and speaker load variation with different speakers and different power level.

LOL you're funny, you started a thread asking what tranny sounds best. Now it seems you got the point, how the tranny 'plays' with stuff around it. Cheers mate! Hehe

[Alex R]

You probably think this song is about you.

it was a bit long so I didn't read it right through. Did he say, I'm marvellous, China is shit?

[ron vogel]

Can you make a Midnight Requisition for us?
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No.

I was over there a few times when I was building my work in progress brown Princeton/vibrolux thingy. The engineer was very helpful. I was convinced the old school manufacturing techniques would provide the imperfections needed to build a truly "vintage" homage to the amp I wanted. I am happy with what I got.

[soundguruman]

You probably think this song is about you.

The first vendor to sell silver mica at my request was New Sensor.
Then CED followed, now pretty much every supplier sells them.
And Marshall started using them in production amps...
instead of the usual ceramic disk caps.

It was my crying about the noise from ceramic disk caps that triggered this.
So blame me.

Up until I did that, pretty much all silver micas were used for radio transmitters.
Nobody used them in guitar amps.

Not because I'm marvelous, but because I wanted to get rid of the noise caused by crap capacitors.

And many said that ceramic disks were not causing noise.
You were wrong about that.

[soundguruman]

it was a bit long so I didn't read it right through. Did he say, I'm marvellous, China is shit?

China is shit.

The part about me being "marvelous" was created by trolls in this forum.

They didn't have anything to attack with, so they just decided to make up their own reasons, to justify the attacks.

[Enzo]

We were using silver mica caps over 40 years ago here, and your name didn't come up at the time.

A glance through some RCA schematics showed them recommending ceramic or mica over 40 years ago.


And when it comes to boasting that one little voice from American set Marshall to using micas is so ludicrous I don;t know what to think. What is more frightening to think, that you think we will believe that, or that you might actually believe it yourself?

[DrGonz78]

I feel like such a troll... The people SGM is calling trolls are the best informative posters I have ever come across on the Internet, which SGM invented too!

The difference is when I say something ridiculous or inaccurate the members on the forum cut me some slack. When someone is on an ego trip that is something completely different. SGM I think you really are getting a worse and worse reputation around this place. You certainly must be trying to destroy your remaining allies or something. Eventually everyone that engages with you on this forum will think your self absorbed. Now is that group think? Is that fair? It at least is the truth.

[R.G.]

And many said that ceramic disks were not causing noise.
You were wrong about that.

Hmmm. I don't recall ever saying that ceramic disks were not causing noise. If you were typing that to others and replied to me, OK. But don't blame that one on me without proof.

On the other hand, I do have some personal experience with people who are a legend in their own mind.

So - DO you think the song is about you?

China is shit.

So - how many Chinese manufacturers and designers have YOU met with personally? How many times have YOU been to China to work on technical matters? How many hours have YOU spent working on technical issues with Chinese engineers and suppliers? Have YOU ever dealt directly with a Chinese supplier?

Or is your comment based on what US businessmen have demanded the Chinese build for the US market? I have dealt with some Chinese manufacturers for quite some years now. The better ones are frustrated that they can't get Western buyers to buy the good stuff. The Western buyers demand dirt cheap, no matter what.

I've worked in manufacturing support both in the USA computer industry and with Chinese manufacturers directly for some years now. The way to get quality is the same - early design/manufacturing involvement, clear and complete specifications, collaborative work on the parts, manufacturing processes, and finished goods, and then continuing that process without stop. I have clear memories of being forced to sit through repeated meetings on "How the Japanese do it" when the Japanese auto and electronics firms were kicking USA car and electronics firms' collective butts in the 80s.

Unless you have some experience with the process, you know not whereof you speak.

[Jazz P Bass]

The man is delusional.


Delusional:

Although non-specific concepts of madness have been around for several thousand years, the psychiatrist and philosopher Karl Jaspers was the first to define the three main criteria for a belief to be considered delusional in his 1913 book General Psychopathology.
These criteria are:
-certainty (held with absolute conviction)
-incorrigibility (not changeable by compelling counterargument or proof to the contrary)
-impossibility or falsity of content (implausible, bizarre or patently untrue)

End of story.

[Justin Thomas]

"Or is your comment based on what US businessmen have demanded the Chinese build for the US market? I have dealt with some Chinese manufacturers for quite some years now. The better ones are frustrated that they can't get Western buyers to buy the good stuff. The Western buyers demand dirt cheap, no matter what. "

DING!!! The "Chinese" "crap" we are getting is exactly what we (as a collective, cheap, disposable society as a whole) are asking for. Personally, as an individual, I don't like it. But I'm only one person standing against 10000 others who demand everything as cheap as possible, quality be damned. Several of my friends who HAVE gone to China to work directly in the factories, making sure directions are clear, overseeing QC, and showing a willingness to actually PAY for quality, get it. It all comes down to quality control for me. I mean, I was disappointed at first to learn that my Fluke was made in China, but it's survived my stupidity quite well, probably because they're willing to invest in having a good product made. And that $100 Kustom tube amp my cousin got was pretty damn good for <$100!!!>

I can get cheap crap that was made in America, too. Dollar Menu, anyone? China isn't necessarily crap, only if lazy cheap Americans demand it! Not saying I subscribe to the cheap-is-good philosophy, but I feel in the dwindling minority.

Justin

[J M Fahey]

Nurse !!!! Nurse !!!!!!
Patient on bed 14 has not swallowed his pills but spit them in the flower pot when you left !!!!!!
I saw him !!!!!!!!