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    I have a 1990 randall here..i believe the model is " Hardrock" or " Hardrock Stack" but its not labeled. it came as a mini stack with 2 , 1x12 cabs . Its a mini size head with 2 output transistors, says 50w on the back. The tag inside says model RG 150 Es . but I cant find a schematic for that anywhere online and Randall will not respond .

    It works but has a very burnt resistor . cant see the bands. The resistor is right before the speaker jacks .

    Can anyone tell me whats needed here by looking at the circuit ? I know its a long shot ....but Im at a dead end .

    I drew up the circuit by tracing the pcb when i could get to the bottom Click image for larger version

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  • #2
    I'm guessing it's part of the Zobel network. Probably 10 ohms. Can you post photos of the whole circuit board, both sides?

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    • #3
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      • #4
        Make sure the 0.1µ series cap is not shorted.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
          Make sure the 0.1µ series cap is not shorted.
          not shorted .

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Valvehead View Post

            not shorted .
            Then either the power rating of the resistor wasn't sufficient or the amp has a stability/oscillation issue.
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            • #7
              Not sure if this will help but here is a RG 100...similar amp. But mine just has the 2 output transistors and only 1 of the .27/7w

              randall_rg100_sch.pdf

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              • #8
                I can't find anything literature wise, but I think dmeek's stab at 10 ohms is probably correct since the first band is brown and normally that part of the Zobel network is a low value resistor.
                "I took a photo of my ohm meter... It didn't help." Enzo 8/20/22

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                • #9
                  VH: Different site but could be useful reading to you. Read Teemuk's entries in this posting - Randall RG140 - need information about a burnt resistor - or schematics
                  Last edited by TomCarlos; 08-22-2023, 03:52 PM.
                  It's not just an amp, it's an adventure!

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                  • #10
                    The model appears to be, or similar to RG50-112. That model has the pull switch. I can't find a schematic though.

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                    • #11
                      Did you measure it? Is it close to 10 ohms?
                      Originally posted by Enzo
                      I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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                      • #12
                        Found the schematic

                        RG50 - Schematic.pdf

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dmeek View Post
                          Found the schematic

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                          That IS pretty damn close !!!!!!!!!

                          im going with 10 ohm / 1 w !

                          THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!

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                          • #14
                            If you just replace with the same power rating, chances are the resistor will fail again.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
                              If you just replace with the same power rating, chances are the resistor will fail again.
                              Still no report (post #11) as to whether the original part has actually failed or not.
                              It does look like it has been excessively overheated though.
                              Originally posted by Enzo
                              I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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