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    Hey Folks,

    I need to paint some PUP screw heads blacks for a black pickguard and was wondering if there is a durable paint to put on screw heads that will not rub off? Acrylic Lacquer maybe?

    Cheers

  • #2
    Originally posted by Slobrain View Post
    Hey Folks,

    I need to paint some PUP screw heads blacks for a black pickguard and was wondering if there is a durable paint to put on screw heads that will not rub off? Acrylic Lacquer maybe?

    Cheers
    Hi Slobrain:
    I make pickups.
    When I need black hardware I use Birchwood Caseys Perma Gun Bluing.
    Birchwood Casey: Finishing Details
    It works on plain steel and on nickel plated steel screws.
    It does not work on stainless steel.
    It says blue, but you get a nice warm matte black finish.
    It can be found at local sporting goods, and gun stores.
    Good Luck,
    Terry
    "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
    Terry

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    • #3
      Thanks for the info Big Teee.
      I just watched someone bluing some gun parts on Youtube and seen how to do that. I'm suprised when I had went to Ebay looking for black strat pup screws the only ones being sold were from Asia.

      I do wonder what would be a good durable black paint to use also. Something that I could also paint the top of a white pickup to make it black without wearing off. Its a cheap Dragonfire dual rail pup but it sounds suprisingly pretty good. I don't want to waste a usable cheap pup on a project guitar.

      Cheers

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      • #4
        Lacquers do not bind strongly to untreated bright shiny surfaces.
        You may use a polyurethane type, 2 component (base + curing agent) paint but be aware that for small jobs you'll probably waste a lot, sine once mixed it has a pot life measured in hours.
        Blueing, of course, becomes part of the iron surface because it's a form of stable controlled rust, which protects the rest of the part.
        Juan Manuel Fahey

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        • #5
          Thanks Big Teee and J M,

          I tried the birchwood casey perma blue tonight and it did the job. Suprisingly I was able to use this stuff to refinish some old Ibanez screws on one of my guitars to make the old screws look real nice again. That was agreat idea Big Teee.

          Now, to find a durable paint to use on a cheapo pickup for another project...

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          • #6
            I'm so glad I found this thread! I gave up looking for black screws and have been using hardware store screws, which look a little tacky in my opinion. This stuff should be great for pickup blades and non-stainless steel pickup slugs too. Thanks for sharing the wealth!
            http://www.nickburman.com

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            • #7
              I forgot to mention that it works on Brass also.
              I do some work for a vintage guitar shop.
              Last year they got in a 63 SG with PAF Pickups.
              There was a couple of the base plate bobbin screws missing.
              I had the screws but mine were new and shiny.
              They stood out like a sore thumb.
              I poured some perma blue in the bottle cap and stuck the screws in.
              It turned them real dark.
              I took and rubbed them on a shop rag until they matched the others.
              Guido the owner, was tickled Pink!
              True Story!
              Good Luck,
              Terry
              "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
              Terry

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              • #8
                Brass is easier to work with too, and sometimes I can only find screws or other hardware in brass. thanks for letting us know.
                http://www.nickburman.com

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                • #9
                  I believe it because *you* post it, but regular gun blue does not work on brass, being that it creates stable black iron oxide on the surface.
                  So those 2 contradicting statements make me think that it's "something else" which gives a similar looking result ... but its chemistry must be quite diferent.
                  If you have a bottle close by, can you please post what ingredients does it state on the label?
                  Certainly it won't post the formula, but for safety rules it must state hazardous chemicals ... which at least might give me a clue.
                  For example, regular bluing salts contain corrosive sodium hydroxide, and this must be stated somewhere.
                  Juan Manuel Fahey

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
                    I believe it because *you* post it, but regular gun blue does not work on brass, being that it creates stable black iron oxide on the surface.
                    So those 2 contradicting statements make me think that it's "something else" which gives a similar looking result ... but its chemistry must be quite diferent.
                    If you have a bottle close by, can you please post what ingredients does it state on the label?
                    Certainly it won't post the formula, but for safety rules it must state hazardous chemicals ... which at least might give me a clue.
                    For example, regular bluing salts contain corrosive sodium hydroxide, and this must be stated somewhere.
                    You've got me wondering now.
                    I just did it a couple of times last year.
                    I will have to research the brass some more, and get back.
                    T
                    "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                    Terry

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                    • #11
                      There's a lot of new chemistry around, one of them is:
                      Blue Wonder Gun Blue Instructions Blue Wonder Gun Care Products - Cleaner, Bluing and Protection
                      which does the job but as they state on the first paragraph:
                      Important: Blue Wonder™ Gun Blue and Gun Black are completely different than any “Cold Blue” you may have tried before. It does not oxidize the metal but rather, bonds to and colors the metal in a two part process, producing a beautiful, durable finish that rivals any factory or hot blue.
                      Don't think yours is this one, because it's a complex process which involves heating the parts with a propane torch and such.
                      I've read that a "light" similar_to_blueing process involves some Selenium salts (similar to those used in anti dandruff shampoos and hair dyes, go figure) which deposit a very dark brown layer on various metals, so dark that *we* find it "black".
                      It *might* be the one you are using.
                      Anyway, it's just a personal curiosity, I just also happen to like chemistry, do finish my parts , including Parkerizing and different industrial paintings , blue my guns and even had set up once an in-house galvanizing process.
                      This one I dismantled promptly, in (justified) terror of the evil lung destroying chemical fumes.
                      So bad that when I send out my speaker frames to be galvanized, I leave and later pick them up at the galvanizer's shop door ... and you can smell the evil fumes even from the street.
                      The guys working there drink (by law) one liter of milk a day "to clean their body".
                      Yea, sure they will.
                      Juan Manuel Fahey

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                      • #12
                        Where are you people looking for parts?

                        * WD Music Products - SINGLE COIL PICKUP BLACK ( 8 )

                        Black Single Coil Pickup Screws | Allparts.com

                        Black Single Coil Pickup Screws Bulk | Allparts.com

                        It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


                        http://coneyislandguitars.com
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                        • #13
                          That would work for the pickup adjusting and pickguards.
                          I started using the bluing for the Humbucker Pole Screws that are 5-40x3/4".
                          They may have them also, but the beauty of the bluing, is you can use the screws you have on hand!
                          T
                          "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                          Terry

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
                            I believe it because *you* post it, but regular gun blue does not work on brass, being that it creates stable black iron oxide on the surface.
                            So those 2 contradicting statements make me think that it's "something else" which gives a similar looking result ... but its chemistry must be quite diferent.
                            If you have a bottle close by, can you please post what ingredients does it state on the label?
                            Certainly it won't post the formula, but for safety rules it must state hazardous chemicals ... which at least might give me a clue.
                            For example, regular bluing salts contain corrosive sodium hydroxide, and this must be stated somewhere.
                            FYI
                            http://sport.birchwoodcasey.com/file...BlueLiquid.pdf
                            B_T
                            "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                            Terry

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                            • #15
                              I prefer to find as much as I can locally. Paying for shipping and waiting two weeks for a couple of screws goes against my religion.
                              http://www.nickburman.com

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