P90 kit trouble

[sir 6v6]

Hi guys! need some help, I recently got myself a P90 clone pickup winding kit. Seems to be pretty sweet, if I could figure out how to put it together... some things just doesn´t make much sense to me... does somebody have a picture of a P90 assembly...? I might add a picture later (just gotta put it on some site of some sort)... and also, no wire was included, what kind of wire do you recomend for a P90? i.e. what thickness? (in metric (mm), if possible).

[belwar]

Well I was able to quickly draw this for you. I dont know if you are using soap bar or dog ear.. Here is how it lines up. Standard P-90's use about 9-11000 turns of 42 AWG single build wire. You can find metric conversions online if you look. You can imagine where the screws go with this. The baseplate goes underneath.

[salvarsan]

Well I was able to quickly draw this for you. I dont know if you are using soap bar or dog ear.. Here is how it lines up. Standard P-90's use about 9-11000 turns of 42 AWG single build wire. You can find metric conversions online if you look. You can imagine where the screws go with this. The baseplate goes underneath.

There you go, giving away the fambly jools.

-drh

[belwar]

There you go, giving away the fambly jools.

-drh

hey when your jools are as small as mine you tend to want to exhibit them!

hey why is it these conversations always end up talking about my jools?

[David Schwab]

It takes balls to show your jools!

And what do you expect from someone who calls himself "salvarsan"?

[Peter Naglitsch]

Here you go:
http://www.femcomagnetwire.com/awg.html


The problem is that the metric wire sizes available is often to far away from what we require. Most common "steps" are 0.050 mm and o.100 mm diameter wire. That corresponds to AWG 44 and 38 respectively. A 0.063 mm diameter wire is something I have never been able to find. IO buy all my wire "over there"

BTW; were are you located?

[Berman]

Hi Peter
one tip where you can find easily all possible sizes of magnetwire.
Go to your local transformer builder, they have in regular nearly all sizes of wire on stock. I, myself got some restspools for cheap.

Greetings Hermann

[Clint Searcy]

Sir 6v6,
Here is a video I did a while ago about a rebuild on a P-90 Gibson Mandolin style pickup. I don't know if it will answer all your questions but it might help you see how the parts go together. One thing to remember that I don't think I mentioned in the video is that if you want you poles screws to have a north charge than the north poles of both magnets need to face the steel keeper. That confuses some folks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iedQSE8ppMI

[sir 6v6]

ok, thank you for the answear! that will make things clearer.

I´m located in Finland btw

[Clint Searcy]

ok, thank you for the answear! that will make things clearer.

I´m located in Finland btw

Really? I'm super famous in Finland these days. Malmstrom rocks!

[sir 6v6]

Really? I'm super famous in Finland these days. Malmstrom rocks!

yep

[Jim Darr]

sir 6v6,

Clint is correct, both magnets need to face the keeper bar with like poles. One magnet can easily flip over during final assembly and you end up a one magnet’s north pole and the other magnet’s south pole facing the keeper. If this happens, assuming you have a good coil, the audio output will be very thin, trebly and weak. If that is the case just flip one magnet over to the correct orientation. Most Gibson P90s that I have seen have a factory south orientation on the screw head.

Good luck.

Jim

[Peter Naglitsch]

For magnet wire of right dimentions check out www.GMF.se

They ship outside Sweden. Don't think they have an english web-page thou...

Edit: This is their order page:
http://shop.gmf.se/group.htm?category_id=4476
check out items AWG 063, AWG 042HF and AWG 042W

EDIT 2:
(I have no idea of what this means but it is their delivery policies in finnish...)
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