New Polymer Neodium magnet VIDEO, standard pickup constructions tests and comparison

[MrCandy]

We recorded another track.
Pickup with Neo-polymer magnet, similar to the PAF

Blues Backer Br 2 channel.mp3

Merry Christmas

[copperheadroads]

We(Me & a guitar player from a metal band just did some magnet swaps in a high gain humbucker of mine (sorry no sound clips)
we compared
A5,A8,Mr.Candy's 75mt NIB
The A8 & the NIB are very nice sounding & similar ,both are bright & warm ,not harsh like the A5
& sound a little sweeter but a little more compressed like a ceramic magnet ..still a great sounding magnet ...just another option for great tone
well done Mr Candy

[MrCandy]

We(Me & a guitar player from a metal band just did some magnet swaps in a high gain humbucker of mine (sorry no sound clips)
we compared
A5,A8,Mr.Candy's 75mt NIB
The A8 & the NIB are very nice sounding & similar ,both are bright & warm ,not harsh like the A5
& sound a little sweeter but a little more compressed like a ceramic magnet ..still a great sounding magnet ...just another option for great tone
well done Mr Candy

Yes, these magnets significantly affect the tone, the sound has less spurious components in the high,
low is harder and more localized. High constituting more like a bell. What do you call this compression is nothing but underline the lower middle, it growls .
Try to wind one coil 120 TPL, another (closer to the bridge) 60-70TPL + 150-200 turns. The magnet will highlight different parts of the AFC.

[big_teee]

Yes, these magnets significantly affect the tone, the sound has less spurious components in the high,
low is harder and more localized. High constituting more like a bell. What do you call this compression is nothing but underline the lower middle, it growls .
Try to wind one coil 120 TPL, another (closer to the bridge) 60-70TPL + 150-200 turns. The magnet will highlight different parts of the AFC.

Tell us again how to get 120 tpl on a hummer coil when the estimator says 89 tpl is 100%.
Coil Estimator
Is this some more of that Smoke and Mirrors, That seems to be Prevalent on here these Days!
T

[Joe Gwinn]

Yes, these magnets significantly affect the tone, the sound has less spurious components in the high,
low is harder and more localized. High constituting more like a bell. What do you call this compression is nothing but underline the lower middle, it growls .
Try to wind one coil 120 TPL, another (closer to the bridge) 60-70TPL + 150-200 turns. The magnet will highlight different parts of the AFC.

If one does this, how does one tell magnet effects from coil effects?

[big_teee]

If one does this, how does one tell magnet effects from coil effects?

+1

[copperheadroads]

Yes, these magnets significantly affect the tone, the sound has less spurious components in the high,
low is harder and more localized. High constituting more like a bell. What do you call this compression is nothing but underline the lower middle, it growls .
Try to wind one coil 120 TPL, another (closer to the bridge) 60-70TPL + 150-200 turns. The magnet will highlight different parts of the AFC.

It does have some of the characteristics of a ceramic 8 magnet
& some of the warmth of alnico

[David Schwab]

It does have some of the characteristics of a ceramic 8 magnet
& some of the warmth of alnico

Well its about the same strength of a ceramic 8 magnet, so that stands to reason. My experience with neo magnets is they have a warmer tone than ceramics though. If you are using a strong neo, you have to watch how much you wind on the pickup or it will get very bassy real fast.

As soon as my magnet wire comes in the mail (ran out over the weekend) I'm going to wind up a dual blade STrat pickup with one of the magnets, and I'm going to try one of the humbucker magnets in one of my HBs.

[MrCandy]

Tell us again how to get 120 tpl on a hummer coil when the estimator says 89 tpl is 100%.
Coil Estimator
Is this some more of that Smoke and Mirrors, That seems to be Prevalent on here these Days!
T

I do not need this calculator, we have an emulator winding machines for debugging process.
He reports
42 AWG - 90 NT
43 AWG - 105 NT
44 AWG - 114 NT
in a layer.

copperheadroads with a guy from metal band tested high output pickup.
I assumed that there was a 44AWG.
And what the Bible says that you can not blow off a little overlap?

[MrCandy]

If one does this, how does one tell magnet effects from coil effects?

Where did you see?
I offered to make a difference in the phase characteristics of the coils.

[MrCandy]

We made a new device for sensor calibration.
We managed to get the solenoid current of about 11A, which has resulted in the values of the magnetic induction of about 189G.
We got sensor A1302KUA-T. In order to do that analysis of his work.
We got conflicting data from the instance, compared with the existing sensors and we have our device.
Just want to make an explanation for our device.
We again contacted the manufacturer of our device that would ensure proper calibration of our device
He reiterated the correctness of the calibration, but when we checked the sensor SS496A on a new installation (with the higher B),
then we have discrepancies between SS496A and our device.
It turned out that our sensor device DHK-0.5A (Latin transcription) was cover (shrinkable tubing).
When the calibration solenoid cover does not make mistakes. We have removed the tube from the place of measurement.
And we began to receive analogous data in comparison with SS496A (after the calibration of the new solenoid).
Obtain higher values of current in the solenoid is problematic.
We need a thicker wire and more current, but with increasing wire gauge solenoid density decreases (in the formula "n"), to compensate for this increase must be current.
Therefore, for higher values of applied pulse modes and superconductors.
The results of measurements, we think that the sensor 1302 is not linear, at least in our existing instance.
On this same reported here RedHouse. But the trick lies in the fact that this instance can not be in the presence of the calibration reference value.
Most likely, these sensors are generally not suitable for measurements of static magnetic field.
Perhaps the sensor is designed to measure angular velocities.

For testing, we obtained data at two points, with a current in the solenoid 11A and 4.5A.
We measured the two magnets, with a low charge (an experimental) high.
We also measured the SD of the ceramic magnet pickup SCR-1N. Unfortunately for the sensor SS496A magnetic induction of the magnet above its upper range.

Vo- SS496A


Vo- A1302KUA-T


SS496A Low mag

∆V=0.908v
Bmag(Isol-4.5A)=341G
Bmag(Isol-11A)=361G
Bmag (data sheet)=363G

SS496A Hi mag

∆V=1.805v
Bmag(Isol-4.5A)=679G
Bmag(Isol-11A)=718G
Bmag (data sheet)=722G


A1302KUA-T Low mag

∆V=0.643v
Bmag(Isol-4.5A)=440G
Bmag(Isol-11A)=464G
Bmag (data sheet)=494G

A1302KUA-T Hi mag

∆V=1.304v
Bmag(Isol-4.5A)=892G
Bmag(Isol-11A)=941G
Bmag (data sheet)=1003G

Our device low mag

Bmag=368G

Our device Hi mag

Bmag=758G

to be continued.....

[MrCandy]

A1302KUA-T SD cer. mag

∆V=1.753v
Bmag(Isol-4.5A)=1200G
Bmag(Isol-11A)=1265G
Bmag (data sheet)=1348G

Our device SD cer. mag

Bsd=945G

Exel files calibration calculations
Calculations B.zip

[LtKojak]

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Does it hurt...?

[David Schwab]

Well those new readings sound more accurate.

[copperheadroads]

I do not need this calculator, we have an emulator winding machines for debugging process.
He reports
42 AWG - 90 NT
43 AWG - 105 NT
44 AWG - 114 NT
in a layer.

copperheadroads with a guy from metal band tested high output pickup.
I assumed that there was a 44AWG.
And what the Bible says that you can not blow off a little overlap?

We were just testing magnets in a 17k bucker with double row Allen screws,that i usually use a A5 or A8 magnet in ( with pretty much same winding pattern as a JB)
There is no designing going on with your magnet yet, just a brief swap with beer,whisky & a cranked orange amp......no r&d until I get back in the spring

Overlap ?................Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!