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  • #16
    Is there any reason we would need the extended range meter Greg makes or would the meter above be enough? I'm talking pickup making only. Also I'm a little confused whether the meter measures gauss or oresteds. I thought gauss was field density and orested was field strength. Are they the same?

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    • #17
      I'm also made humbuckers with neo magnets. I think standart range magnet meter will be not enouht to measure neo magnets. In future I will be make experiment with samarium cobalt magnets.
      www.fokinpickups.ru
      www.fokinpickups.com

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ilya F. View Post
        I'm also made humbuckers with neo magnets. I think standart range magnet meter will be not enouht to measure neo magnets. In future I will be make experiment with samarium cobalt magnets.
        Go read the thread in the link I posted, he has 2 types, one will do Neo's
        (look for "Spin Doctor")
        -Brad

        ClassicAmplification.com

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        • #19
          (another double post, geez I wish T-Boy would fix this)
          -Brad

          ClassicAmplification.com

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          • #20
            Originally posted by RedHouse View Post
            Go read the thread in the link I posted, he has 2 types, one will do Neo's
            (look for "Spin Doctor")
            What browser are you using.
            I am using Firefox, and I never get double Posts.
            T
            "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
            Terry

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            • #21
              Originally posted by big_teee View Post
              What browser are you using.
              I am using Firefox, and I never get double Posts.
              T
              Yeah, lets give the whole "switch browsers" thing a rest.

              I hate when "that" reply comes up in forums, and specialy ones that are supposed to be all about solving software issues (like How-to-Geek, etc). I once posted in HTG asking why a particular thing with Acrobat (not reader) wasn't working in Win7 and got the usual (un-helpful) dose of "oh you should use PDF Maker, or blah, blah, blah" which turned out to be stupid non-sense because the cause was some UAC issue nothing to do with Acrobat.
              (and obviously, no need to switch app's)

              I personally don't like FF, tried it-don't like it, <e-o-m>.

              Chrome looks sleek but no better IMHO, and I don't have a mac (David) but anyway this isn't a problem with my PC, which hasn't changed since waaaay before this double-post crap started happening, it's to do with the webpage/form handling code.

              {Edit} Brings to mind all those saying the same thing back when we were having that weird long-run-off-page-view thing happening here, which mysteriously "solved itself" without switching to alternate browsers.... hmmm.

              {Edit, Edit} I don't mean for this reply to sound mean/nasty/rude, just get tired of that whole thing.
              Last edited by RedHouse; 08-27-2012, 04:54 PM. Reason: added disclaimer
              -Brad

              ClassicAmplification.com

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              • #22
                Originally posted by RedHouse View Post
                Yeah, lets give the whole "switch browsers" thing a rest.

                I hate when "that" reply comes up in forums, and specialy ones that are supposed to be all about solving software issues (like How-to-Geek, etc). I once posted in HTG asking why a particular thing with Acrobat (not reader) wasn't working in Win7 and got the usual (un-helpful) dose of "oh you should use PDF Maker, or blah, blah, blah" which turned out to be stupid non-sense because the cause was some UAC issue nothing to do with Acrobat.
                (and obviously, no need to switch app's)

                I personally don't like FF, tried it-don't like it, <e-o-m>.

                Chrome looks sleek but no better IMHO, and I don't have a mac (David) but anyway this isn't a problem with my PC, which hasn't changed since waaaay before this double-post crap started happening, it's to do with the webpage/form handling code.

                {Edit} Brings to mind all those saying the same thing back when we were having that weird long-run-off-page-view thing happening here, which mysteriously "solved itself" without switching to alternate browsers.... hmmm.

                {Edit, Edit} I don't mean for this reply to sound mean/nasty/rude, just get tired of that whole thing.
                Sorry, just trying to help!
                "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
                Albert Einstein
                "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                Terry

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                • #23
                  I know Terry, appolgy's if it sounded rough.
                  -Brad

                  ClassicAmplification.com

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RedHouse View Post
                    I know Terry, appolgy's if it sounded rough.
                    Your just an Intense Person, and can't help it!
                    Are you making any Pickups, and Stomp boxes these dazes?
                    I have been doing a few more lately!
                    T
                    "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                    Terry

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by RedHouse View Post
                      Go read the thread in the link I posted, he has 2 types, one will do Neo's
                      (look for "Spin Doctor")
                      I know it. But I can't get any.
                      www.fokinpickups.ru
                      www.fokinpickups.com

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                        Your just an Intense Person, and can't help it!
                        Are you making any Pickups, and Stomp boxes these dazes?
                        I have been doing a few more lately!
                        T


                        Yeah, both, and I had a record month this July (thank goodness).

                        I'm having a great August too, BTW do you recognise anyone in this picture?
                        (hint: I'm the one with the Classic Amplification t-shirt)


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                        This was his birthday (Friday 8-17) and mine the following Monday.

                        Here's my vintage wife posing with his vintage gear, I just love vintage stuff (LOL)

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                        and his early 50's Strat and a very nice guy named Bill (his Amp/Guitar tech).

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                        here's Bill, me, and Dustin (EJ's guitar tech) it was Dustin who invited us this day:

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                        you can see EJ playing a Coronado he just bought the day before (in Portland Oregon)
                        , here's a better pic of the Coronado:

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                        which had a bad pot and Bill was trying to do something for it during the sound check:

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                        Talk about a bunch of nice guy's, this was my first experience with some good 'ol boys from Texas.
                        Last edited by RedHouse; 08-28-2012, 03:41 AM.
                        -Brad

                        ClassicAmplification.com

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                        • #27
                          Guys -

                          I cut a piece of hollow rectangular plastic stock (from a hobby shop, probably some model railroad stuff) and slipped it over the Hall sensor extension on Greg's meter. One reason is that the area of interest for me to measure is rarely in contact with a magnet or pole piece, but rather is 3/32" or so above it, where the string might be at its closest position. This also has the effect of allowing the meter to read stronger mags without pegging.

                          Bob Palmieri

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                            I am using Firefox, and I never get double Posts.
                            I'm using Firefox, and I do get double posts.

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                            • #29
                              Sometimes it helps if you go to "go advanced" before you post and then you only get one post.........sometimes....
                              http://www.SDpickups.com
                              Stephens Design Pickups

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Rosewood View Post
                                Is there any reason we would need the extended range meter Greg makes or would the meter above be enough? I'm talking pickup making only. Also I'm a little confused whether the meter measures gauss or oresteds. I thought gauss was field density and orested was field strength. Are they the same?
                                Gauss and Oersteds are two different, but closely related measurements of magnetic field strength. Gauss is normally used to specify flux density. The greater the flux density, the more voltage will be induced in a wire moving within the field, which is relevant to pickup design. Oersteds are typically used to express magnetizing strength within a solenoid carrying current. In a vacuum, 1 Gauss is equal to 1 Oersted. In other media, like ferrous metal, Oersteds must be multiplied by the permeability factor of the medium to get the value in Gauss. Air has a permeability that is extremely close to that of a vacuum, so in the vicinity of a pickup magnet (air), the value of Gauss and Oersteds would be virtually equal.

                                As far as which meter you need, as FieldWrangler mentions in post #27 of this thread, you can use a spacer to get the meter probe further away from the magnet to do your measurements, as long as you are only interested in comparing a number of magnets all measured at that same distance. The strength (flux density) of a small magnet drops off rapidly as you move away from the pole. A meter that is limited to 1700 Gauss would peg when placed right against even a small neodymium magnet, but would not peg if moved even 1/8" away. If you are trying to reproduce a set of magnets from one pickup (original) to another (copy), they have to be measured at the same distance to get a valid comparison.

                                Trying hard to give info without blatant advertising.

                                Greg Glenn
                                Last edited by mechg; 08-29-2012, 01:10 AM.

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