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  • #16
    Originally posted by copperheadroads View Post
    HAHa ,they usually come thrown in a clear bag ,Im ok with scratches in plates ,not covers
    Yeah I get some of those from Mojo too. I never noticed the scratches, but then I probably didn't care either. I have some in a plastic bag right here too.

    I just wondered if it was done intentionally.
    It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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    • #17
      Originally posted by David Schwab View Post
      You mean you are making replicas of old pickups. Vintage pickups have nothing to do with scratches.
      I don't generally care for the terms "replica" or "clone" or "copy" in terms of my products, however, I understand your point.

      They came in a sandwich-size ziplock. The few covers I received in the same order were all individually packed as usual, as were the rod magnets I also ordered.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ReWind View Post
        I don't generally care for the terms "replica" or "clone" or "copy" in terms of my products, however, I understand your point.

        They came in a sandwich-size ziplock. The few covers I received in the same order were all individually packed as usual, as were the rod magnets I also ordered.
        If you are making them to look old, then they are replicas, since that's a cosmetic feature. If you are making them sound like the old pickups, they they could be considered clones, since it's not an original design, but a copy of an existing pickup. The replacement pickup market started out with offering something different (Bartolini, DiMarzio, Lawrence), so either you were getting hotter pickups, or cleaner pickups, and now it's evolved into a lot of clones of rare vintage pickups. Thats OK too.
        It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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        • #19
          Hi Tom

          It would be nice to get the manufacturer to put a sharp 90 deg. bend on the foot, instead of the soft bend. Then you'll have nailed the vintage baseplate market.

          Cheers

          Andrew

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          • #20
            I thought about making those bends a little sharper myself. Mallet/blocks/vice. Somewhat crude, but hey, it'd work!

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            • #21
              Hi James

              I reckon you'll make a dogs dinner out of it if you try and hammer them into shape. Best that Tom at Mojotone asks His suppliers to make a sharp bend on the feet. It shouldn't be too hard as the p90 humbucker style plate looks better (still not that sharp).
              Lets see what happens.

              Cheers

              Andrew
              Originally posted by ReWind View Post
              I thought about making those bends a little sharper myself. Mallet/blocks/vice. Somewhat crude, but hey, it'd work!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by the great waldo View Post
                I reckon you'll make a dogs dinner out of it if you try and hammer them into shape.
                One can do this by hand, but a simple tool is required: a piece of steel with a 90 degree V-groove machined in, and a matching 90 degree V-point chisel.

                Put rounded bend in the V-groove (itself held in something solid), put chisel on top (so baseplate foot is between groove and chisel), and smack smartly with a LARGE hammer. You want to do this with a single blow, or the result will look battered.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by the great waldo View Post
                  Hi Tom

                  It would be nice to get the manufacturer to put a sharp 90 deg. bend on the foot, instead of the soft bend. Then you'll have nailed the vintage baseplate market.

                  Cheers

                  Andrew
                  Who's going to be taking their pickup out of the guitar to look at the bend on the foot? You guys REALLY care about that stuff? That makes no sense to me. Worry about the tone. The rest of that stuff is vintage guitar fetish masterbation! You can't have the real thing, so have a make believe PAF. Do you have to get dressed up like Clapton and stand in front of a mirror when you play them? That's the same as the people who spend a lot of money on pickup rings.

                  Man guitarist have become a weird bunch! They have turned into audiophiles... only audiophiles concerned with the shape of the widget and not the sound!

                  It would be possible to describe everything scientifically, but it would make no sense; it would be without meaning, as if you described a Beethoven symphony as a variation of wave pressure. — Albert Einstein


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                  • #24
                    Hi David

                    You are right, However I assume that Mojo, Addiction and anyone else are trying to make a replica baseplate for the vintage fans. It surprises me that something so simple has eluded the different manufacturers of wholesale parts. I will pay the extra price for an accurate reproduction and will also quite happily use the cheaper far east version for the majority of customers. Unfortunately we live in a world where "musicians" customers often take a guitar off the wall and spend 30 mins. looking at the salient features how shiny/reliced the finish is, what kind of toggle top knob is correct. They then spend 2 mins. playing the guitar and buy or not. I think the main problem in all the vintage hype is that a lot of good (great) music came from the 50's 60's. and people look to the equipment used by the players to try and achieve something equal. The way I see it is that a guitar pickup is only part of the chain, the wood , the amplifier, and most of all the talent of the players should be considered. I'm not going to refuse a guy that want's to buy one of my guitars or pickups and stand in front of the mirror, however I will inform him that most of these players firstly practiced, had talent, and usually played new not old guitars. I am even happier to sell an instrument to a good player (this is to me the whole point of doing what I do) We live in a very widget orientated society which many people "profit" from. Never had a widget when I was a kid, but I did have nice ebony and mahogany and decent hard fretwire !!!!

                    Cheers

                    Andrew
                    Last edited by the great waldo; 10-29-2012, 06:14 PM. Reason: spolling

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                    • #25
                      Request noted gentlemen. I'll ask if the tool can be modified to apply the 90 degree bend in the foot. I would be prepared for a negative answer though. When I get a response I'll let everyone know. Thanks for your patience as always.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by tomatmojotone View Post
                        Request noted gentlemen. I'll ask if the tool can be modified to apply the 90 degree bend in the foot. I would be prepared for a negative answer though. When I get a response I'll let everyone know. Thanks for your patience as always.
                        Another thing to consider: make the same baseplates but with SHORT LEGS.

                        Nobody make'em and, to be honest, you need long legs with Jazz boxes ONLY. All other guitars, let's say, 90%, don't NEED long legs. And some guitars (PRS and many Japanese vintage AND nowadays instruments, and many hi-quality Korean ones) take short legs ONLY. With this data in hand, I'd say make the short-legged model standard, and charge a premium for vintage-accurateness.

                        HTH,
                        Pepe aka Lt. Kojak
                        Milano, Italy

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                        • #27
                          Hi Pepe

                          There are short leg base plates avaialble, and as they don't have to be vintage correct they should be ok. I know they have 12 screw pole holes but I can't see that making a huge difference to the tone imho.

                          Cheers

                          Andrew
                          Originally posted by LtKojak View Post
                          Another thing to consider: make the same baseplates but with SHORT LEGS.

                          Nobody make'em and, to be honest, you need long legs with Jazz boxes ONLY. All other guitars, let's say, 90%, don't NEED long legs. And some guitars (PRS and many Japanese vintage AND nowadays instruments, and many hi-quality Korean ones) take short legs ONLY. With this data in hand, I'd say make the short-legged model standard, and charge a premium for vintage-accurateness.

                          HTH,

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by the great waldo View Post
                            Hi Pepe

                            There are short leg base plates avaialble, and as they don't have to be vintage correct they should be ok. I know they have 12 screw pole holes but I can't see that making a huge difference to the tone imho.

                            Cheers

                            Andrew
                            I know... I just like the others better!

                            The 12-hole ones shout asian p'up to me, so it's more of a "perceived quality" thing that "actual quality", that's all.
                            Pepe aka Lt. Kojak
                            Milano, Italy

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by LtKojak View Post
                              I know... I just like the others better!

                              The 12-hole ones shout asian p'up to me, so it's more of a "perceived quality" thing that "actual quality", that's all.
                              I use these a lot, and they work great.
                              Humbucker Pickup Baseplate
                              They have a leg half way between short and long.
                              They come in three sizes.
                              "If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil in the House of Commons." Winston Churchill
                              Terry

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by big_teee View Post
                                I use these a lot, and they work great.
                                Humbucker Pickup Baseplate
                                They have a leg half way between short and long.
                                They come in three sizes.
                                Yeah, I know'em; unfortunately they don't ship to Italy.
                                Pepe aka Lt. Kojak
                                Milano, Italy

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