So whats so special about these?

[pupoholic]

madialex,
off topic,

I'm glad I found out who ya are, -- a old friend --

its funny when your friend is ahead of you in the car up ahead and slams on the brakes or cuts ya off.. cause its a friend it makes it funny..

but when a total stranger does it -- the feeling is 180*

Glad to know its you.. and not a stranger...

on topic,
why ya need the other two?, just wind a set with Fomvar and those specs and Blow away Fenners set.
DON MARE

[kevinT]

I'd like two scoops of midrange, please. And with sprinkles.

emmmm.....now that sounds pickuplicious

[Possum]

something odd

heavy formvar at 7.57? You need a micrometer dude, you can't tell wire gauge by looking at it, I have some H formvar 43 gauge and its OD is real close to 42 S, with those specs I suspect they wound the bridge with 43 H formvar, it would be tough possibly to cram that much heavy 42 on a strat bobbin. I just wound one for a customer, almost totally filled bobbin with 42H and its 6.7K, no way can you get 7.5K heavy on there. Get a mic......for that matter they may have used 43 on the neck and middle too, are you trying to duplicate that set? WHY?

[madialex]

As far as wire, me thinks it is 42 formvar, but may be something between heavy and regular, I have no way to measure it but its def not heavy Formvar. Mags, not sure either, hell they could be A3's as far as I know, again no way to test this. Anyone have anymore questions ask away, i'll be happy to do what I can to answer them about this beast.

heavy formvar at 7.57? You need a micrometer dude, you can't tell wire gauge by looking at it, I have some H formvar 43 gauge and its OD is real close to 42 S, with those specs I suspect they wound the bridge with 43 H formvar, it would be tough possibly to cram that much heavy 42 on a strat bobbin. I just wound one for a customer, almost totally filled bobbin with 42H and its 6.7K, no way can you get 7.5K heavy on there. Get a mic......for that matter they may have used 43 on the neck and middle too, are you trying to duplicate that set? WHY?

Yep I want a good caliper but too expensive for me at the moment. I dont think it is heavy formvar but dont think its 43 either, may be just plain ol 42 single build. ??

Oh yeah, not trying to duplicate it, just needed the specs in case I get any more busted rewinds. I know, I could weigh it or get that mic, which I will do when the money gets right but till then I'll just have to wing it I guess.

[Possum]

single...

well if they are touting mid scoops its probably not single build, for that matter I don't see anybody using single build formvar and very rarely see it for sale anywhere, I bet its 43 heavy.

[NightWinder]

How full are the bobbins? Is it about 2mm from full?

[NightWinder]

Are you sure about 250 tpl? And loose tension at 7.5k?

[madialex]

well if they are touting mid scoops its probably not single build, for that matter I don't see anybody using single build formvar and very rarely see it for sale anywhere, I bet its 43 heavy.

Very possible it is heavy 43. The bobbins look normal, not over filled, I guess about 2mm like Nightwinder said. Maybe its like Don said, the bridge is just a hot wind normal pickup and the other 2 may be the scooped ones. Mayer uses his neck pickup almost all the time.

Yep I'm sure about the 250 TPL I checked it again yesterday. I wound a test one like that as well, not too bad, powerful but not as lively as I like them.

[NightWinder]

Id say its 43 single formvar, which really would'nt be to hard for fender to order 50lbs-100lbs....2mm spacing from the edge.....sounds exactly like 43 s.f.
Mad- just asking about the 250 tpl. Just making sure bro : )

[Electricdaveyboy]

Hello,
here are some pics I took of a John Mayer sig strat.
The pickups were wound with Plain Enamel not Formvar.

[RedHouse]

Are you sure about 250 tpl? And loose tension at 7.5k?

Someting funny, there must be some overlap, two things can't occupy the same space physically.

Are you sure about the 250TPL?

The reason I ask is because figuring the minimum diameter spec of 43S which is .0022"

.0022" x 250TPL = .55"

Re-figuring with average nominal diameter of 43S is: .0025"

.0025" x 250TPL = 625"

As the average Strat bobbin is like .5" between upper and lower plates, seems like somethings wrong with that TPL. Maybe the bobbins are taller?.

[SteikBacon]

Hehe. Someone asked me today if I could make a set like the Big Dip today..
Hm. I think I'll let him try my own strat first.

[tedmich]

They are "Big Dipper" pickups available only in the John Mayer signature Strat. They aren't sold separately at this time. They apparently have a scooped midrange. They are hard to get so the prices are high. That's the deal.
Dave

as an aside, in a conversation with Ralph Novak (Mr Fanned fret) he confided that JM doesn't even own the use of his name; it goes on whatever Fender sees fit and there is little way of knowing what he actually uses, much less likes. Supposedly Fender told him he can't use the Novax XR, Expression or 2 Expression 8-strings he owns.