Need Advice Hi-Output pickup

[JCrab]

Hey guy's. Looking for some inputI am wanting to build a hi output pickup 15.9k range with a alnico 5. I am guessing 44awg or mabey 45awg ? and I was wondering how many winds will get me there. I just can't figure out that darn calculating chart for pickup building.. It drives me crazy

[big_teee]

Hey guy's. Looking for some inputI am wanting to build a hi output pickup 15.9k range with a alnico 5. I am guessing 44awg or mabey 45awg ? and I was wondering how many winds will get me there. I just can't figure out that darn calculating chart for pickup building.. It drives me crazy

Looks like 6700-7000 turns of 44.
JesseJames was getting that with 8000 turns of 43.
You definitely don't need 45 for that.
T

[JCrab]

Looks like 6700-7000 turns of 44.
JesseJames was getting that with 8000 turns of 43.
You definitely don't need 45 for that.
T

Thanks T. When you say 6700-7000 is that each bobbin or a starting point, if a starting point would you have more winds on the slug or screw so to speak.. Oh and by the way the wire I was tracking on the bay turned out to be Reminton

[big_teee]

Thanks T. When you say 6700-7000 is that each bobbin or a starting point, if a starting point would you have more winds on the slug or screw so to speak.. Oh and by the way the wire I was tracking on the bay turned out to be Reminton

Yes I was just going by the coil estimator on the 6700-7000 for each coil.
I just buy straight from remington, but they do sell on ebay.
It seemed like the shipping may have been a few bucks cheaper if you bought direct.
Something like that.
I would just wind them 7k turns each coil.
Then read them and maybe peel a little off of the screw coil.
Good Luck,
Terry

[JCrab]

Thanks, Is this what I am looking for, I found it at remington, Enameled Copper Magnet Wire - 44 AWG - 5.55 lbs Solderable 155C MW-79-C Red

[SonnyW]

Thanks, Is this what I am looking for, I found it at remington, Enameled Copper Magnet Wire - 44 AWG - 5.55 lbs Solderable 155C MW-79-C Red

FWIW I just did a single coil sized HB with that same wire from Remington and 5750 turns per bobbin and it came out 13.4K.

The Coil Estimator from Salvarsan is pretty easy to use, gets close, and I use it all the time.
http://music-electronics-forum.com/t28111/

[JCrab]

FWIW I just did a single coil sized HB with that same wire from Remington and 5750 turns per bobbin and it came out 13.4K.

The Coil Estimator from Salvarsan is pretty easy to use, gets close, and I use it all the time.
http://music-electronics-forum.com/t28111/

Thanks SonnyW, the pickup estimator confuses me

[copperheadroads]

Thanks SonnyW, the pickup estimator confuses me

It's pretty simple once you play around with it ,Select the type of pickup bobbin,(Stewmac 50 mm humbucker I think it is) wire gauge & then desired resistance
you should always pay attention to what numbers you decide to go with & what dcr you end up with , I always come up a little short when using the estimator so I add some winds to acheive a certain dcr

[JCrab]

It's pretty simple once you play around with it ,Select the type of pickup bobbin,(Stewmac 50 mm humbucker I think it is) wire gauge & then desired resistance
you should always pay attention to what numbers you decide to go with & what dcr you end up with , I always come up a little short when using the estimator so I add some winds to acheive a certain dcr

I think I am doing something wrong,, I just came up with 5904 winds of 44awg,, that does not sound rite to get 15.9k

[big_teee]

I think I am doing something wrong,, I just came up with 5904 winds of 44awg,, that does not sound rite to get 15.9k

It showed me 6373 loose (left column), 7160 Perfect 100% (Right Column).
That was for 44 ga single build wire.
The bobbin I chose was for a 50mm Paf.
T

[davos]

Im not sure if it helps but 7500 winds of 43 on each bobbin gets me 15K DCR

[JCrab]

Im not sure if it helps but 7500 winds of 43 on each bobbin gets me 15K DCR

Thanks T,, davos I want to try building with 44awg

[copperheadroads]

Go with 7000 t of 44 gauge ,It will be really close to you desired dcr

[Mike Sulzer]

Hey guy's. Looking for some inputI am wanting to build a hi output pickup 15.9k range with a alnico 5. I am guessing 44awg or mabey 45awg ? and I was wondering how many winds will get me there. I just can't figure out that darn calculating chart for pickup building.. It drives me crazy

But how do you know you want 15.9 K if you do not know what size wire you are going to use? The output is different with the same total resistance of each wire size because it is the number of turns is different, and that is most important.

It seems to me a better way to think about this is:

1. How many turns of #42 can I fit on? Well, that number is probably not enough based on experience so...

2. How many turns of #44 can I fit on? Well that number might be enough, so let's wind it full. OK that has plenty of output, but it is a bit muddy. Let's try it with 5% fewer turns, and see how that sounds, etc.

Or, if #44 did not give enough output, then you might have to try even smaller wire.

You are going to find what the trade offs are.

[JCrab]

Go with 7000 t of 44 gauge ,It will be really close to you desired dcr

I have a nic/sil & Copper baseplate.. What would you go with