Pickup Rewinds

[rjb]

If i remember correctly the pickup attached to pots assembly is some sort of Fender pickup

Looks like a Valco/Supro string-thru lap steel assembly to me.
Jason can tell you all about them.

The thing with 4 single coils... no idea.

-rb

[Stratz]

The Supro's can be a bitch.... paper bobbins...

[copperheadroads]

I think supro lap steel actually came off what they call a Coodercaster

[big_teee]

Hi Guys:
I've never seen any of Copper's stuff, but it all looks cool !
T

[rjb]

I think supro lap steel actually came off what they call a Coodercaster

Well, there's your Fender connection:
Coodercaster = lap steel bridge and gold foil neck pickups mounted in a Strat.
(Tuning to open D is optional.)

But what is the other thing? Are those bakelite bobbins?
It looks like it could be a part from a Singer Featherweight.


-rb

PS - I agree with T. Cool stuff.

[copperheadroads]

The 4 pickup on the can comes from a eko ekomaster 400

[rjb]

Ah, of course, Ekomaster 400! Had to look that one up. The guitar with a pushbutton transmission...


https://reverb.com/item/90276-eko-ek...1-blue-sparkle
Pickups are a tad quiet and microphonic and don't do well with extreme gain. Sounds great with a cleaner / mild overdriven amp.

[copperheadroads]

The owner finds the EKO pickups thin sounding so I may rewind them ,they all read in the 8.5k range & magnets are quite strong so weak magnets are whats wrong .
A few pics
the bobbin is not full so i would suspect it's 44 gauge or smaller . I'm not sure if rewinding this little humbucker sized bobbin will help fatten the tone much ,I would reverse the poles of one set & turn it into humbuckers then they would be fat!!!

[rjb]

Dr. Obvious Says

Going by the selection switch configuration, I reckon 1+4 and 2+3 could be humbucking pairs.

[copperheadroads]

The only problem with the Cooder Valco pickup is the G string is weak .

[kayakerca]

A couple of Tele bridges - '66/'67

I have a couple of Tele bridges in for rewinds. They are '66/'67, so just at the start of of the CBS time. Both grey bottom and marked as '67. Notice any difference between the 2 bobbins?



The top flatworks have the same physical length and width. The bottom flatwork pole piece spacing is the same, but the spacing on the top flatworks is another story. . .

[Jim Darr]

I have a couple of Tele bridges in for rewinds. They are '66/'67, so just at the start of of the CBS time. Both grey bottom and marked as '67. Notice any difference between the 2 bobbins?

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The top flatworks have the same physical length and width. The bottom flatwork pole piece spacing is the same, but the spacing on the top flatworks is another story. . .

I've seen a few similar examples, but nothing that bad. Well, its only rock & roll, so little issues like this shouldn't matter a whole lot. LOL

I have a bridge Tele top flatwork from the same era that was punched "way off" center. So much for QC in the good old days. Sometimes I think if it made a sound it was okay.

[kayakerca]

I have a couple of Tele bridges in for rewinds. They are '66/'67, so just at the start of of the CBS time. Both grey bottom and marked as '67. Notice any difference between the 2 bobbins?

[ATTACH=CONFIG]43499[/ATTACH]

The top flatworks have the same physical length and width. The bottom flatwork pole piece spacing is the same, but the spacing on the top flatworks is another story. . .

The bobbin above on the left wound pretty nicely. All the old patina still intact (flatwork, magnets, lead wires, base plate, etc.) Just the new 42PE. Still needs to be potted and string wrapped, but that's for tomorrow.



We'll have to see how the bridge on the right with the narrowed pole piece top flatwork winds up. That'll be Friday after a few days for the lacquer to cure up.

[big_teee]

I received a Tele guitar with issues.
Apparently it is a parts caster.
It has a nice 3 tone burst body with top binding.
The neck is a B-Heifner, licensed Tele Neck.
The bridge pickup says Van zant on the copper plated baseplate.
It measures open, and doesn't work.
The neck pickup still works but is muffled, and measures nearly 9K ohms.
The pickup switch is a 4 way, and does parallel and series.
Both pickups are wound CCW, bridge is South up, and the neck is North up.

Since I've never fooled with a four way switch, and series wiring, not sure about both being wound CCW?
Also both pickups have heavy masking tape over the magnet polls.
I've always let the magnets touch the cover and baseplate, with no tape.
Curious how others do theirs?
I plan on rewinding both with 42 gauge single.

Any input welcome?
T

[Leo_Gnardo]

One of the common 4 way wiring schemes has both pickups in parallel in one of the mid positions, and in the other position both pickups in series. For the series wiring to work, one of the pickups - in 4 ways I've wired, the neck pickup - has to be "floated", that is neither lead connected to ground. And that means intentionally or by accident. The tape may be in there to insulate the pickup from its metal cover. Hope this helps, Terry.