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    I have a tele bridge pickup I rendered microphonic by staring at it too hard (handling, but its super delicate). Its cloth braid/with the barest bit of wax. But... the magnet is neodymium and since it dies at 80C even a double boiler is not guaranteed safe.


    I have like one loose winding. How do I best save it. Shellac? CA glue? Its a GFS Neovin.I don't expect CA to stick to wax. Nor much of anything else. Any suggestions? If i can fix it in the plate thats even better because handling a cloth wound pickup in a tight plate is how it got damaged in the first place
    The prince and the count always insist on tubes being healthy before they're broken

  • #2
    While the Curie temperature of Neo magnets is above 300°C, some types start to lose some strength above 80°C.
    The irreversible loss up to 120°C is typically below 10%.
    It is hard to believe that a Neo magnet "died" at a potting temperature of 80°C.
    Pure paraffin potting is possible at 70°C.

    What do you mean with "in the plate"?
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    • #3
      I mean without dismounting it from the Telecaster bridge plate, as handling that is how I got here (twice, I had a Neovin that was microphonic, i replaced it for a Neovin Hard Vintage i had laying around and did the same to it).

      I didn't figure I could dip it like that but I thought maybe a gentle heat could remelt everything in place.
      The prince and the count always insist on tubes being healthy before they're broken

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      • #4
        A few loose outer turns won't cause noticeable microphonics.
        If the problem increased over time I would contact the manufacturer.

        Apart from that, all Tele bridge PUs are somewhat microphonic because they're mounted in/on a ferromagnetic steel plate.
        Remedy: Find a non-magnetic stainless steel bridge plate.
        Last edited by Helmholtz; 06-06-2023, 11:10 PM.
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        • #5
          On further inspection I think the birds nest is actually the tele string. When I set my sights on a tele I had no idea this was a whole nother level of guitar player juju and superstition beyond other electric guitar players.
          The prince and the count always insist on tubes being healthy before they're broken

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          • #6
            Sorry, no idea what you mean.
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            • #7
              Apparently tradition is that telecaster pickups protect the windings with string rather than cloth tape/ribbon. I snagged a bit of string, not wire. I knew there was essentially no way to 6k worth of cloth insulated wire on the bobbin.
              The prince and the count always insist on tubes being healthy before they're broken

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              • #8
                Originally posted by NateS View Post
                I snagged a bit of string, not wire.
                So what was the result?

                I thought this was about a microphonic PU ?

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                • #9
                  It is. I'm currently thinking it's bridgeplate/spring/mounting. I just drilled and countersunk two holes iin the forward edge after confirming that the front edge was lifting. Depending on what else happens before it gets fixed I may go as far as mounting the pickup to wood. (leaving the bridgeplate). The baseplate seems to be solid, so far the only thing I have confirmed to be microphonic is the bridge plate itself (tap on the front edge, audible results), and using a lightly sprung pickup mounting.
                  The prince and the count always insist on tubes being healthy before they're broken

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