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  • #16
    I know they're inexpensive, I just want to keep things out of landfills as long as possible.

    ken
    www.angeltone.com

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ken View Post
      I know they're inexpensive, I just want to keep things out of landfills as long as possible.

      ken
      I remember seeing a site devoted to modifying threat things into a number of different applications. I use them to convert line level inputs into mic level phantom power inputs, DI boxes and such. But people make tube OD pedals and other things out of them.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ken View Post
        I know they're inexpensive, I just want to keep things out of landfills as long as possible.

        ken
        That's really the manufacturer's problem, not ours. If he wants his products to stay out of landfills he should build them better so they won't break. And/or provide better after-sales support. (Peavey anyone?)

        In Europe the WEEE regulations require electronic manufacturers to take all their crap back for recycling anyway, or pay a contractor to do it on their behalf, so that makes it the manufacturer's problem twice.
        "Enzo, I see that you replied parasitic oscillations. Is that a hypothesis? Or is that your amazing metal band I should check out?"

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        • #19
          Well, I have been criticized for building things so they last 500 years,
          but I always try to fix old stuff...even if it makes little sense to the disposable culture I live in.
          If parts are available and cheap or free, and Joe can get them, I will just go ahead and forward them to the tech...
          guess I will know by tomorrow sometime.

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          • #20
            I also hate throwing things in the garbage.
            If not practical getting the exact original tiny pots (8mm?) , I would just slap 2 regular 16mm pots *somewhere* and run twisted wires to the original pads.
            They won't be over 4" anyway .
            Well, you might have to make a pair of 8mm holes somewhere. Big deal.

            Can anybody get the schematic?
            Look like great devices to cannibalize parts, even the cabinet, or, as said, to turn them into tube guitar preamps, direct boxes, whatever.
            Links anybody?
            Juan Manuel Fahey

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            • #21
              (not certain if these are the same, but a couple of ART "Tube MP" schematics here:

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              edit: (hmm... link shows as "LOG iN", so sorry if you need to sign up/in to see them)

              (attached them here them just in case you can't)
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              Last edited by dai h.; 02-27-2012, 08:39 PM.

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              • #22
                I hate to throw stuff away too. But you know, if you have the parts and want to spend your time on it, that is fine. But money has a value beyond the cash. If you have to spend $20 to get a part, that $20 represents work and resources. So instead of throwing away some cheap product, I am throwing away the fuel and energy and supplies it took to earn me that $20. Either way I am throwing something away, when the job can be done "cheaper" by replacement.
                Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by J M Fahey View Post
                  I also hate throwing things in the garbage.
                  If not practical getting the exact original tiny pots (8mm?) , I would just slap 2 regular 16mm pots *somewhere* and run twisted wires to the original pads.
                  They won't be over 4" anyway .
                  Well, you might have to make a pair of 8mm holes somewhere. Big deal.

                  Can anybody get the schematic?
                  Look like great devices to cannibalize parts, even the cabinet, or, as said, to turn them into tube guitar preamps, direct boxes, whatever.
                  Links anybody?
                  A lot of people rehouse pedals and such. They like a particular effect or device, but it is cheaply built. The fix is to mount the guts in a better/larger box and replace and remount better quality pots/jacks/switches to end up with a ruggedized and reliable version of the original product.
                  Last edited by olddawg; 02-27-2012, 11:57 PM.

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                  • #24
                    A lot of people rehouse pedals and such. They like a particular effect or device, but it is cheaply built. The fix is to mount the guys in a better/larger box and replace and temping the pots/jacks/switches to end up with a riggedized version of the product.
                    Excellent idea.

                    In fct *somebody* should rehouse these things in a cool expensive looking case and sell them for big $$$.
                    In fact, that happened short ago with a famous boutique pedal builder.
                    Not a sin, many boutique pedals are just homemade versions of old pedals, so sticking the real deal inside ends up being good.
                    Juan Manuel Fahey

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                    • #25
                      Here is a message from Lightning Joe:
                      Thank you, and rockith also does Thom at ART, who is sending me the pots no charge!!

                      I'll let you know when they arrivith.

                      "Pic Long and Prosper"
                      -Joseph

                      Lightning Joe's Guitar Heaven
                      100 East Branch Street
                      Arroyo Grande, CA 93420-2702
                      (805) 481-2226 phone
                      (805) 481-3689 fax
                      LIGHTNING JOE'S GUITAR HEAVEN
                      joseph@lightningjoes.com


                      What is your mailing address Ken? I will forward them to you ASAP! No Charge Bro.

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                      • #26
                        Thank you for everything!

                        ken
                        www.angeltone.com

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by ken View Post
                          Thank you for everything!

                          ken
                          Joe and I share a philosophy of helping people when we can and ART was nice about it too.
                          Please thank ART and Joe if you get a minute...
                          I think one of these days you may be able to help us with restoring a pickup, until then, rock it.

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                          • #28
                            I got mocked a bit this week for fixing a Chinese mechanical watch that I paid $10.62 for. When asked why I'd do that, I said "because it didn't work."

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                            • #29
                              Exactly.



                              Our kid used to play with these small $1 action figure GI Joe or Thundercat or some such toys. The arms and legs and head moved. The upper torso connected to the legs by a rubber ring stretched through the pelvis. The ring breaks, the toy falls apart. I used to go to the hardware and buy bags of O-rings and repaird these things all the time. Got pretty efficient at it.
                              Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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                              • #30
                                I have a number of Tube MP, MP Studio and MP V3 that I have scrapped for parts, as well as lots of Artcessories stuff. We buy up all of the UK distributor's warranty returns as they are not cost effective for them to fix. I fix and sell some of them and scrap some for parts where not economic.

                                Although I do have parts lists for many of their products, I have not been able to order any spares from them. The deal from the UK distributor was purely "take the lot - cheap" and do what you can with them without pestering them to order any parts. I manage to fix enough to cover my outgoings and put a warranty on them too. It is no way to get rich, but saves them becoming landfill.

                                I am not sure that the transatlantic postage will justify it, but if you don't find a source for the parts you need, do come back to me and I will help if I can.

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