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  • #1

    5-E-whaaa???

    Look, maybe I am the only guy, but I sure do not know all those numbers. I know a 5E3 is a Deluxe, it comes up so often. But talk about a 5E4 or a 5E13 or a 5E11, and I have no idea which amp we are talking about. I would consider it a favor if folks would include the darn model NAME along with the code, at least in the first post. Long ago I made a list, it is in the front of my binder for old Fenders. But that is over at the shop, and even then I'd have to get up from th bench and go grab the binder.

    I am not an amp "fan", I am just a technician. My schematics are all filed by name, not code. So tremolux is under T, not 5E something. I appreciate the fans that have knowledge, they know what years which variations came along, they can tell you when such and such models were made, and which ones were Fullerton or Scottsdale or LAke Erie or Timbuctu. Fine, it is just like sports fans, they can tell you the scores of every world series game ever or the score of Superbowl 6, or Pele's birthday. We have the guys who can tell you how many grooves there are around a Fender skirt knob. But I am a fan of circuits and troubleshooting, not of amps. SO I may be alone, but geez, don't make me go look up what a 5E12 might be.



    And just to ask, how many of you knew what a 12 was without looking it up?
    Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.
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  • #2
    I knew 12 - I have one.

    Sorry, Enzo, just proving your point... I keep that list in my phone; I almost have it memorized. I don't memorize the BF/SF, though - too much overlap. I know all the Bassmans, just cuz I love them.

    Justin

    Edit: I've had license plates of "62 6G12A" & "67 AB165"...
    "Wow it's red! That doesn't look like the standard Marshall red. It's more like hooker lipstick/clown nose/poodle pecker red." - Chuck H. -
    "Of course that means playing **LOUD** , best but useless solution to modern sissy snowflake players." - J.M. Fahey -
    "All I ever managed to do with that amp was... kill small rodents within a 50 yard radius of my practice building." - Tone Meister -

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    • #3
      I just do the google and pretend I knew.
      And most of them are common enough so the schematic comes up with the search results anyway so I don't even have to look for my file.
      But I agree, it's nice to know the model name and era as it's more likely to trigger the memory as far as previous experience with the model. At least for me, anyway.
      Originally posted by Enzo
      I have a sign in my shop that says, "Never think up reasons not to check something."


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      • #4
        I remember asking a poster here what amp he was talking about, a DR-123 or some such model. I got a bunch of grief for not knowing that this was a Hiwatt something of another. From then on I figured that the cool kids knew what all the model numbers were and I didn't need to get involved, so I just don't even bother to do a search.

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        • #5
          I had to look it up. Duh I'm sitting right across the room from it--one of my faves! '62 6G12-A.
          Don't believe everything you think. Beware of Rottweiler. Search engines are free.

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          • #6
            I mean, my brown Concert!
            Don't believe everything you think. Beware of Rottweiler. Search engines are free.

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            • #7
              Best trem ever. Any less than 5 triodes is just broken. The usual comment is, "Whoa, where'd you get a Univibe?"

              Justin
              "Wow it's red! That doesn't look like the standard Marshall red. It's more like hooker lipstick/clown nose/poodle pecker red." - Chuck H. -
              "Of course that means playing **LOUD** , best but useless solution to modern sissy snowflake players." - J.M. Fahey -
              "All I ever managed to do with that amp was... kill small rodents within a 50 yard radius of my practice building." - Tone Meister -

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Justin Thomas View Post
                Best trem ever. Any less than 5 triodes is just broken. The usual comment is, "Whoa, where'd you get a Univibe?"
                It goes one better... Y your guitar into a brown Concert or Super vib channel (I got both, heh heh...) and another amp with no vib/trem, balance the volumes, get your head between the two, have a strum or two... and see if you can stop. Psy-kay-dellik! Only outdone by a real Leslie + straight amp IMO.
                This isn't the future I signed up for.

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                • #9
                  I am sure I could google the code and it would come up, I can find lists too. But if I go to the Black Magic web site I often use for links, thanks nick, the amps are alphabetic, and I have to scan down all the small lettering to find the numbers. And my thumb drive full of schematics is all alpha as well.

                  Bill, they are not cool kids, they are the amp fans I talked about.

                  My sister is a Washington Redskins fan, and of course EVERYONE should know who RG3 is. Reggie Gackson? Ricky Gervaise? Reginald van Gleason?

                  It does bug me when it is not some fender one we might be expected to already know, but when it is just a "Mark 2", well that could be a lot of things.
                  Education is what you're left with after you have forgotten what you have learned.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Leo_Gnardo View Post
                    It goes one better... Y your guitar into a brown Concert or Super vib channel (I got both, heh heh...) and another amp with no vib/trem, balance the volumes, get your head between the two, have a strum or two... and see if you can stop. Psy-kay-dellik! Only outdone by a real Leslie + straight amp IMO.
                    Like a BF Bassman w. 2x15" cab? All through a stereo chorus? And a Vibro-Champ for dirt, all at the same time? Check...
                    >:O
                    I posit that SRVīs tone came from the sheer amount of air that he moved, all at the same time...

                    Justin
                    "Wow it's red! That doesn't look like the standard Marshall red. It's more like hooker lipstick/clown nose/poodle pecker red." - Chuck H. -
                    "Of course that means playing **LOUD** , best but useless solution to modern sissy snowflake players." - J.M. Fahey -
                    "All I ever managed to do with that amp was... kill small rodents within a 50 yard radius of my practice building." - Tone Meister -

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                    • #11
                      Maybe a link to the schematic you're using is best. A model name like "Deluxe" or "Bassman" is only marginally more helpful than "Fender".

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