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[bob p]

Some people end up getting Lasik to correct one eye for close vision and one eye for distance vision. I never liked that idea. My sister loves it.

[Enzo]

My doctor actually proposed contacts that way as an option. I said no.

[Chuck H]

If I ever do contacts it's going to be for color. Not that I dislike the color I have. Hazel. The girls love it! But 'd do something like one all black and one all white. That could be some fun, first person perspective people watching. Crying children not withstanding

[g1]

I normally use a rectangular pair of 2.50 for looking at PCB, and if I need higher mangification than that, I have an old set of round frame 3.50 whose temples have broken off. I just drop the round specs onto my nose, sitting inside of the 2.50, and the result is 6x magnification. The only problem is that if I lean too far over sometimes the extra set will fall off. To get around that, I've worn two complete sets of 2.50 readers at the same time to get 5x.

I get your point and this probably doesn't matter, but the number on readers and RX glasses is diopters and not magnification (X) factor.
A pair of 2.00 readers is nothing like a 2X opti-visor or magnifier.
Also, focal distance is important. Those magnifiers on amazon have a "short focal distance from lens to product is 0.2-2in (0.5-5cm), just like the principle of microscope". I don't really like having to put my face up close within 2 inches of things. I like to be able to solder with my magnifier on, so the 16 inch focal length I use works good for me.

[Jazz P Bass]

My doctor actually proposed contacts that way as an option. I said no.

I had cataract surgery awhile back.

They tried the same thing one me.

Nope.

Just set it up that I can see rocks on the Moon.

[Chuck H]

Well, in reading all this I just miss being able to see like I use to. No offense to the members here that have always needed scrips, but until I was in my thirties I enjoyed better than 20/20. Last official check when I was about twenty five I was still at 20/19. Now at 48 I struggled a little with the eye test at the local DMV last month. Of course it may have partly been their crappy, old illuminated visor tester. I do know my vision is noticeably impaired out to maybe twelve feet and unless I have a magnifying glass I might just as well throw my Thomas Guide at passing traffic. I keep readers in three strengths. 1.5, 2.0 and 2.5 so I'm ready for differing light levels and distances. Once in a while I do stack two pair when I need near microscopic vision. I prefer glasses with no upper frame so I can easily look over them like bifocals. This is necessary for my job because I traverse a lot of stairs, ladders and landscape terrain. I've experienced a much greater tendency for errant foot falls when looking through magnifiers. So I wear mostly these no top frame glasses and I wear them low on my nose. Giving me that old lady/ Ben Franklin look

Anyway, I miss being able to see easily and well. Vision goes slowly so you don't notice much day to day until punctuated moments occur and you find yourself wearing Ben Franklin glasses and remembering when

[big_teee]

I take these, and I think they help.
PreserVision Eye Vitamin AREDS Formula Soft Gels : Bausch + Lomb

[Chuck H]

[QUOTE=big_teee;429004]I take these, and I think they help.
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Can't hurt! Good call. The vitamin breakdown does give a heads up to the savvy vitamin shopper though. Very similar products sell for half or less (though they don't say Bausch & Lomb on the label )

[Steve A.]

I had cataract surgery awhile back.
• They tried the same thing one me.
• Nope.
• Just set it up that I can see rocks on the Moon.

Cataract surgery has improved a lot in 30 years. Back then my next door neighbor had it done and she was racked up for a good month. I accompanied a friend who was having cataract surgery about 7 years ago and there was no down time at all.

As for Lasik surgery I have been using bifocals for almost 40 years - I can see close fairly well but have difficulty reading signs in the supermarket and on the highway. I don't usually wear glasses around the house. Progressive bifocals are great.

BTW I used to get my glasses on sale from JC Penneys. Never once did they mark and measure my pupils on the sample frames which is necessary for bifocals to work properly (glasses don't sit the same on different people.) Since switching to Kaiser for my glasses they have been perfect (except for one time when they made them over for free, with the optician tweaking the prescription so that they would work better.)

Progressive bifocals have worked so well for me why would I want lasik surgery???

Steve Ahola

[big_teee]

[QUOTE=Chuck H;429007][QUOTE=big_teee;429004]I take these, and I think they help.
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Can't hurt! Good call. The vitamin breakdown does give a heads up to the savvy vitamin shopper though. Very similar products sell for half or less (though they don't say Bausch & Lomb on the label )[/QUOTE]

I buys those at Sam's club, and they are cheap enough.
I will stick with the name brand that the doctors prefer!
T

[Steve A.]

I take these, and I think they help.
PreserVision Eye Vitamin AREDS Formula Soft Gels : Bausch + Lomb

Soft gels? You do know that Nature Made recalled their adult gummy vitamins last month because of staph, salmonella and mold?

Recall: Nature Made adult gummy vitamins over staph, salmonella concerns - Story | abcactionnews.com | Tampa Bay News, Weather, Sports, Things To Do | WFTS-TV

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I buys those at Sam's club, and they are cheap enough.
I will stick with the name brand that the doctors prefer!

I suspect that most opthamalogists will tell you that the generics work just as well if you'd rather not subsidize Bausch & Lomb's marketing and hoards of sales reps...

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Here are the ingredients of the 4 B&L vitamins in case anyone wants to look for generic equivalents (or perhaps your multivitamin supplement already has them.)



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Steve Ahola

[big_teee]

Generics don't always have the same ingredients.
» Don?t Assume the Store Brand is Comparable
I buy the real thing.
I buy them at Sam's club to get the real thing, cheaper.
I've been taking them for several years.
But, do what you like!
T

[Steve A.]

Generics don't always have the same ingredients.
» Don?t Assume the Store Brand is Comparable
I buy the real thing.
I buy them at Sam's club to get the real thing, cheaper.
I've been taking them for several years.
T

I read the article and see no problem with the CVS brand since we probably already get enough vitamins C & E, zinc and copper in our diet or in a daily vitamin supplement. It is the lutein and zeaxanthin that we probably don't get enough of (if any at all.) As for there being an exact combination of the 6 ingredients, forget about it! B&L has no idea how much of the first 4 ingredients we are getting each day before we take their pills.

As for the "unneeded" omega 3 fatty acids unless you are already taking high-dosage omega 3 supplements a little bit more should not cause problems...

http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archiv...health-effects

I have the same argument over name brand vs generic drugs with my son. Hey, I will try them both and if I feel that I get more benefit from the name brand I will buy it. One exception might be eye drops... I think I would pay extra for B&L because I don't want to put some chemist's concoctions in my eyes!

Steve Ahola

EDIT "ConsumerLab.com's tests showed that most, but not all, lutein and zeaxanthin supplements contain what they claim and meet other important quality parameters."

https://www.consumerlab.com/reviews/...review/lutein/

Said author Jennifer J. Yong, MD, "It's also crucial that physicians remind patients that, at this time, vitamins have yet to be proven clinically effective in preventing the onset of eye diseases such as cataracts and AMD."

http://www.visionaware.org/blog/visi...claims-1666/12

[Steve A.]

A big thanks to Terry for telling us about AMD (Age-related macular degeneration) which is not the general lessening of our vision as we get older but a very specific condition, typically a blurry spot in the middle of our vision. The AREDS 2 formula has been shown to help people already diagnosed with AMD (however it has not been shown to prevent the development of AMD. One opthamalogist recommends regular use of sunglasses to prevent AMD... I just got a pair of prescription sunglasses and they are great for driving!)

After reading some of the reports I see that one serious problem was found with some of the competitors' products: the lutein and zeaxanthin measured in their pills did not correspond to what was printed on the label. BTW dark green leafy vegetables contain both of those ingredients.

What Are the Symptoms of Macular Degeneration?
In its early stages, macular degeneration may not have symptoms and may be unrecognized until it progresses or affects both eyes. The first sign of macular degeneration is usually a dim, blurry spot in the middle of your vision. This spot may get bigger or darker over time.

Symptoms of macular degeneration include:
• Dark, blurry areas in the center of vision
• Diminished or changed color perception
If you experience any of these symptoms, see an eye specialist as soon as possible.

How Is Macular Degeneration Diagnosed?
Age-related macular degeneration can be detected in a routine eye exam. One of the most common early signs of macular degeneration is the presence of drusen -- tiny yellow deposits under the retina -- or pigment clumping. Your doctor can see these when examining the eyes. Your doctor may also ask you to look at an Amsler grid -- a pattern of straight lines that resemble a checkerboard. Some of the straight lines may appear wavy to you, or you may notice that some of the lines are missing. These can be signs of macular degeneration...

Early detection of age-related macular degeneration is very important because there are treatments that can delay or reduce the severity of the disease.

Age-Related Macular Degeneration: Wet & Dry Macular Degeneration, Causes, and Risk Factors

Steve Ahola

[Steve A.]

Generics don't always have the same ingredients.
» Don?t Assume the Store Brand is Comparable
I buy the real thing.
I buy them at Sam's club to get the real thing, cheaper.
I've been taking them for several years.
T

I read the article and see no problem with the CVS brand since we probably already get enough vitamins C & E, zinc and copper in our diet or in a daily vitamin supplement. It is the lutein and zeaxanthin that we probably don't get enough of (if any at all.) As for there being an exact combination of the 6 ingredients, forget about it! B&L has no idea how much of the first 4 ingredients we are getting each day before we take their pills.

As for the "unneeded" omega 3 fatty acids unless you are already taking high-dosage omega 3 supplements a little bit more should not cause problems...

Excess omega-3 fatty acids could lead to negative health effects | News and Research Communications | Oregon State University

I have the same argument over name brand vs generic drugs with my son. Hey, I will try them both and if I feel that I get more benefit from the name brand I will buy it. One exception might be eye drops... I think I would pay extra for B&L because I don't want to put some chemist's concoctions in my eyes!

Steve Ahola

P.S. "ConsumerLab.com's tests showed that most, but not all, lutein and zeaxanthin supplements contain what they claim and meet other important quality parameters."

https://www.consumerlab.com/reviews/...review/lutein/

Said author Jennifer J. Yong, MD, "It's also crucial that physicians remind patients that, at this time, vitamins have yet to be proven clinically effective in preventing the onset of eye diseases such as cataracts and AMD."

New Research: Top-Selling Eye Supplements Lack Scientific Evidence, Make Unsupported Claims - VisionAware Blog - VisionAware