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  • Originally posted by catalin gramada View Post
    Do you have say 100k resistor at hand ?
    Yes, what to do with it?

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    • Originally posted by catalin gramada View Post
      Do you have say 100k resistor at hand ?
      There is a distortion trim pot on main preamp board, could that be causing issue?

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      • Originally posted by ca7922303 View Post

        There is a distortion trim pot on main preamp board, could that be causing issue?
        I placed a 100k resistor where your blue and green marks were at and it had no effect on the (0.00 ohms) reading.

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        • Hey, between blue and green points was just a link wire as much I can see. Put 100k between jack at orange wire solfer and blue point. You will inject some nfb directly from 16 ohm tap in this way. Maybe it help to stabilise. Power on the and see if still oscillate
          "If it measures good and sounds bad, it is bad. If it measures bad and sounds good, you are measuring the wrong things."

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          • Originally posted by catalin gramada View Post
            Hey, between blue and green points was just a link wire as much I can see. Put 100k between jack at orange wire solfer and blue point. You will inject some nfb directly from 16 ohm tap in this way. Maybe it help to stabilise. Power on the and see if still oscillate
            Thought I had 100k, it's actually 100 ohms 1/2 watt, and I've got some 10k 1/2 watt, some 5 watt cement resistors 470 ohms and 4.7k 5 watt cement resistors. Should I try any of these or I'll see if I can find some locally if not then order online.

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            • I'm pretty sure g1 was onto something when THIS was discovered:

              Originally posted by ca7922303 View Post

              The amp is not at full volume, but does work at lower volumes, but just noticed the presence control has no effect on brightness or volume
              So the presence control doesn't work either because the control it broken or not connected OR... The feedback loop is disconnected or faulted somehow.
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              • Originally posted by Chuck H View Post
                I'm pretty sure g1 was onto something when THIS was discovered:



                So the presence control doesn't work either because the control it broken or not connected OR... The feedback loop is disconnected or faulted somehow.
                I pulled presence pot and it tested good out of circuit, reinstalled it, still no presence.

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                • Originally posted by ca7922303 View Post

                  I pulled presence pot and it tested good out of circuit, reinstalled it, still no presence.
                  Went ahead and tried a 10k 1/2 watt and there's a definite volume increase, less distortion when I'm plugged into 16 ohm jack only. Will get 100k ohm 1/2 watt locally. What's best way to make all output jacks work 4/8/16? Thanks.

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                  • Found a 147k resistor, installed it and even more volume increase, less distortion, but still oscillating and red plating.

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                    • Originally posted by catalin gramada View Post
                      Hey, between blue and green points was just a link wire as much I can see. Put 100k between jack at orange wire solfer and blue point. You will inject some nfb directly from 16 ohm tap in this way. Maybe it help to stabilise. Power on the and see if still oscillate
                      Got some 100k ohm 1/2 watt resistors locally and have one installed now. Same condition, volume increase, less distortion, about the same amount of oscillation and red plating.

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                      • Did you tried to pull v5 out to see if osscilate? Oh you said the volume increased with 100k feedback resistor? then your wires to power tube inputs should be reversed. It is possible those wires to be reversed by mistake ? hope you used 100k from orange wire to blue point without those link on board you removed( blue-green)
                        Last edited by catalin gramada; 03-08-2022, 10:33 PM.
                        "If it measures good and sounds bad, it is bad. If it measures bad and sounds good, you are measuring the wrong things."

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                        • I've got a signal generator and PC based oscilloscope if someone could help me trace this issue down? Thanks.

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                          • Originally posted by catalin gramada View Post
                            Did you tried to pull v5 out to see if osscilate? Oh you said the volume increased with 100k feedback resistor? then your wires to power tube inputs should be reversed.hope you used 100k from ora ge wire to blue point without those link you removed blue-green
                            Removed V5 and only oscillates on channel 2. Does not oscillate on channels 1 & 3.

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                            • Originally posted by catalin gramada View Post
                              Did you tried to pull v5 out to see if osscilate? Oh you said the volume increased with 100k feedback resistor? then your wires to power tube inputs should be reversed. It is possible those wires to be reversed by mistake ? hope you used 100k from orange wire to blue point without those link on board you removed( blue-green)
                              Here's what I've got. No link between your blue and green points.

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                              • Originally posted by catalin gramada View Post
                                Did you tried to pull v5 out to see if osscilate? Oh you said the volume increased with 100k feedback resistor? then your wires to power tube inputs should be reversed. It is possible those wires to be reversed by mistake ? hope you used 100k from orange wire to blue point without those link on board you removed( blue-green)
                                What are you saying I need to do with the power tube input wires? Can you point me in the right direction with that? Thanks.

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