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  • Magnatone 280 restoration

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ID:	992225 I've just started looking at this stereo amp someone brought me. Chassis is intact, all OT secondaries cut at the speakers, and crossover tweeters disconected.
    Will be a pretty big project. I've got all the original tubes in a bag. Apparently this has been passed around a couple techs over the years

    Thusfar the only thing that I'm confused about is the selenium rectifier , that's not on the schematic.
    You can clearly see the bias circuit : yellow/black bias tap> reversed diode>cap>voltage divider . You can also see that someone added a GIANT bias cap, which is essentially in parrallel with the smaller old metal bias cap.
    They both are oriented correctly, + to ground, but this is the only modification I can find in the chassis, and a red flag.

    Anyways, should I replace the selenium rectifier? Also, I'm just not really clear on why it's there? Isn't the little black diode doing the job to create neg voltage?

    Schematic and pics attached

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    All I can think is that the small diode was a mod as well, and originally the amp didn't have it, just the selenium rec, but I'm not sure this was implemented correctly

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    • #3
      I guess the selenium rectifier was the original bias diode.
      Now it's out of circuit and replaced by the SS diode and can be removed.
      - Own Opinions Only -

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Helmholtz View Post
        I guess the selenium rectifier was the original bias diode.
        Now it's out of circuit and replaced by the SS diode and can be removed.
        Ah I see, I didn't take enough time to see the neg terminal of the selenium rec is disconnected . Thank you.

        I'm gonna snip out the strange large replacement, replace the stock bias cap and diode mod with fresh ones and move on.

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        • #5
          Why is there a .1 blue molded cap as the second filter in the bias supply? Would another 25u/50v electrolytic be more effective?

          I happen to be working on another magnatone of my own, and the last filtercap in the main Power supply it 47n.

          What is the purpose of non-polarized caps in these applications?

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          • #6
            Also of interest, the NFB was disconnected from both poweramps you can see the green wires wrapped round some other wires after being snipped

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LarBal View Post
              Why is there a .1 blue molded cap as the second filter in the bias supply? Would another 25u/50v electrolytic be more effective?

              I happen to be working on another magnatone of my own, and the last filtercap in the main Power supply it 47n.

              What is the purpose of non-polarized caps in these applications?
              The impedance of a capacitor is a function of capacitance and frequency. So perhaps they were trying to deal with a specific problem in the bias supply. Or trying to lower the esr.

              Low value capacitors are typically non-polar. I think ideally all capacitors would be non-polar but we use electrolytics because they are much cheaper when capacitances are higher.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LarBal View Post
                Why is there a .1 blue molded cap as the second filter in the bias supply? Would another 25u/50v electrolytic be more effective?

                I happen to be working on another magnatone of my own, and the last filtercap in the main Power supply it 47n.

                What is the purpose of non-polarized caps in these applications?
                Non-polarized caps are not required here.
                I can't think of a technical reason why they used such low capacitance.

                But before doing any component changes I would get the amp working.
                You could always add larger value ecaps later if there's a hum problem.
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                • #9
                  RFI maybe?
                  "I took a photo of my ohm meter... It didn't help." Enzo 8/20/22

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