Daily Run Down, & Round Table-P/Us

[big_teee]

I think we need a Thread that is not related to a specific problem or project.
If you want to check in from time to time, and discuss whatever your working on.
Have a pickup idea or pickup project to discuss, this could be a good thread to do it on.

Today I'm working on a set of Tele Pickups.
I have the wax pot warming and fixing to pot the pickups.
Shouldn't be too hard to get the wax hot, It is 107f in the shade here in the south.

What are you working on, or have to discuss?
T

[Ward]

Err, well, it's 8am in Oz land, I just did my back in getting out of bed. Nothing much for me today oh and Diana from MWS ignored my email.

[big_teee]

Err, well, it's 8am in Oz land, I just did my back in getting out of bed. Nothing much for me today oh and Diana from MWS ignored my email.

That's not good on the no email.
It's not 8am here, it is 17:15 PM Weds, and it is 108f in the shade, and a good solid 100f in my shop.
I just threw 2 pickups in the wax.
I may have to throw them in the Frig. to cool them off.
T

[Ward]

That's not good on the no email.

Oh so the bad back's no problem then.

[Ward]

Just got an email from Diana, they only ship using the expensive guys, fed ex, dhl, ups. So in the end I'll just spread the cheeks n take it from Mojo.

[NorCalTuna]

fun day. I'm working on speaker driven reverbs for some clients and playing a lot of guitar. It's a perfect 81 and sunny here. My neighbors don't seem to mind little 5 watters breaking up with the windows open.

[big_teee]

Just got an email from Diana, they only ship using the expensive guys, fed ex, dhl, ups. So in the end I'll just spread the cheeks n take it from Mojo.

The Mojo wire is way over priced.
Did Diana give you any prices?
If you can get by with SPN, or HPN, Remington has great prices, if you stay away from the small rolls.
T

[big_teee]

Bump!
Ward, sorry about the Back.
Drink another cup of coffee!
Did you get that pretty Gold Guitar all finished?
T

[copperheadroads]

I find Plain enamel wire don't slip through the felt tensioner as smooth as poly & at times if even found the tension increases the more wire went through the felt ...WTF

[Ward]

The Mojo wire is way over priced.
Did Diana give you any prices?
If you can get by with SPN, or HPN, Remington has great prices, if you stay away from the small rolls.
T

28.51 a pound for the 42 HV, that's around $140, way cheaper than Mojo but I spose I should now ask for a shipping quote which they didn't supply, round n round we go.

Bump!
Ward, sorry about the Back.
Drink another cup of coffee!
Did you get that pretty Gold Guitar all finished?
T

I did, I'll post some pics, that thing's got a crazy b/eye neck.

[Ward]

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[big_teee]

How much do you really make on a guitar like that?
Is that a Parts caster, or are you making the body, neck, etc ?
I love that Guitar!
T

[Ward]

How much do you really make on a guitar like that?
Is that a Parts caster, or are you making the body, neck, etc ?
I love that Guitar!
T

Thanks T, yeah some think it to be the pick of the litter lol.
I don't make any dough on them, they all go into the collection. I have 18 at the moment and don't really want any more but I've said that many times, it's like amp building, very addictive.
Usually I make the neck, bridge block and pickguard, pickups of course and do the spraying. I do make bodies sometimes but it's way easier and cheaper to buy the strat bodies from China, they are made by Eden, most are 2 piece alder, I have one swamp ash strat from Mighty Mite real light weight, the Peach Chiffon, that thing sounds killer, one Eden hard ash humbucker strat, an SG I made the neck and body out of Mahogany imported from Fiji, very satisfying result, and another strat out of the same mahogany which I shall post up when I finally get around to fitting the two zebra woody humbuckers ( mahogany/maple, looks great on clear lacquered mahog body )
The Edens get here and I spend a day or two reshaping the forearm and hip reliefs as they are not done well by the factory, also the neck pocket is routed too big, 1 1/4'' instead of 1 3/16'' so I have to fix that as well, then I always need to do routing, esp the bridge so it will swivel properly and where the switch goes coz I lessen the angle of the switch so I need to take out some wood for that.
If you think to just by a cheap Eden body and bolt stuff on it you'll run very foul, the bridge is in the wrong place as well ( 3 to 5mm out ) but nothing you can't fix with the router. There's a lot of work to make these bodies fit up right but they are so cheap and the wood is fine it's just one rare chance to keep a bit of dough for myself.
Once I've tuned up the body I do the spraying, I use acrylic lacquer coz that's what I was brought up on in the 70s and I'm sticking with it till they ban that like they have every thing on the planet that used to be fun. 2 pac is so forkin toxic but they don't ban that do they. So there you go, I'm gonna fit em all out with woody pickups over the coming months. You wanna see the SG? People must be getting sick of my BS by now?

[big_teee]

Great Job Ward:
Killer Neck, and I love that shade of gold.
I have been asked to make a P-Bass/J-Bass Combo pickup set?
Anybody got any experience with P/J Bass sets?
I have done mainly rewinds of P, and J Bass sets.
Any input welcome.
The S.D. wiring shows 250k Pots.
Wiring Diagram
T

[Ward]

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[big_teee]

Nice, is that a 3 or 5 way switch?
do you have the RWRP?
I wonder on the P-J, if when both vols are up will it be hum canceling or not?
I bet not.
I guess if you turn the J down the double Ps would be hum canceling.
T

[Ward]

Nice, is that a 3 or 5 way switch?
do you have the RWRP?
I wonder on the P-J, if when both vols are up will it be hum canceling or not?
I bet not.
I guess if you turn the J down the double Ps would be hum canceling.
T

3 way wired like a tele mate and yes RWRP on the front pickup. Yes I agree, no hum cancel when P and J both on, turn off the J and no hum. My notes say Fender J wound with 42PE 9.500 turns. I'd be inclined myself if it was my bass to wire the P in parallel??? for cleaner tone. I've got a set of P bobbins here but never bothered winding them up.

[big_teee]

3 way wired like a tele mate and yes RWRP on the front pickup. Yes I agree, no hum cancel when P and J both on, turn off the J and no hum. My notes say Fender J wound with 42PE 9.500 turns. I'd be inclined myself if it was my bass to wire the P in parallel??? for cleaner tone. I've got a set of P bobbins here but never bothered winding them up.

This will be for someone else, I will ask and see what they want.
Taking out Active EMGs, and going Passive is what they said they wanted.
Looks like a Push pull setup might work.
If you got enough switches, the options are endless.
This is a Singing Lady's bass, and it is supposed to be a Headless Bass.
The Lady Donna Sings, and plays bass, and the guy plays guitar.
They own a local music store. I get all the pickup work, and all the wiring he doesn't want to fool with.
Occasionally I get to figure out, what he gets tore up and can't fix.
They want to send it home with me.
Ought to be fun!
T

[Ward]

This will be for someone else, I will ask and see what they want.
Taking out Active EMGs, and going Passive is what they said they wanted.
Looks like a Push pull setup might work.
If you got enough switches, the options are endless.
This is a Singing Lady's bass, and it is supposed to be a Headless Bass.
The Lady Donna Sings, and plays bass, and the guy plays guitar.
They own a local music store. I get all the pickup work, and all the wiring he doesn't want to fool with.
Occasionally I get to figure out, what he gets tore up and can't fix.
They want to send it home with me.
Ought to be fun!
T

Yes bro, it's always a blast when you can improve someone's tone which is what it's all about hopefully. I get to do stuff for others on a very occasional basis as I live in a one horse town. WHY OH WHY

[big_teee]

Yes bro, it's always a blast when you can improve someone's tone which is what it's all about hopefully. I get to do stuff for others on a very occasional basis as I live in a one horse town. WHY OH WHY

Where do you live?
I live Near the I.
google earth hot springs, ar - Google Maps
Zoom out and you can tell where it is in the states.

[Ward]

Where do you live?
I live Near the I.
google earth hot springs, ar - Google Maps
Zoom out and you can tell where it is in the states.

Braidwood NSW.

[big_teee]

Braidwood NSW.

So what is Braidwood NSW Known for.
Here's a diagram for P/J with blender.
Wiring Diagram
What would that do different?
You got all those fancy Strats.
Have you built one with Blades yet?
If not Your missing out.
T

[Ward]

So what is Braidwood NSW Known for.
Here's a diagram for P/J with blender.
Wiring Diagram
What would that do different?
You got all those fancy Strats.
Have you built one with Blades yet?
If not Your missing out.
T

Well the blend pot with switch must do something I just can't get my head around right now, just the switching part kills either pickup, one on the other off but the pot might be connected to the switch? I dunno but that has to be how it works. But then how do you have both on? I'd need to have it here n check it out with the DMM.
Braidwood, who cares mate, I'm a blown in n wish I could blow right back out but I can't. I fear this is the last stop.
Never made a blade, you mean the humbucker blade in S/C size? Or single coil blade?

[big_teee]

Well the blend pot with switch must do something I just can't get my head around right now, just the switching part kills either pickup, one on the other off but the pot might be connected to the switch? I dunno but that has to be how it works. But then how do you have both on? I'd need to have it here n check it out with the DMM.
Braidwood, who cares mate, I'm a blown in n wish I could blow right back out but I can't. I fear this is the last stop.
Never made a blade, you mean the humbucker blade in S/C size? Or single coil blade?

Attachment 18985Attachment 18986
The Single coil in the middle is optional.
I like it that way.
The blades are dead quiet and they can be made to sound like single coils, pretty close.
T

[Ward]

Yeah, it wouldn't hurt to try one out I spose. I made a stacked set years ago, I didn't put a steel plate in between the coils, I used another top flatwork, the things are dead quiet, sound like singles but have about 2/3 the output of a stock single, I always wondered if the plate would have upper the output? but they are great in every other aspect and still look like singles. One day I'll redo em with a plate n see.

[big_teee]

Yeah, it wouldn't hurt to try one out I spose. I made a stacked set years ago, I didn't put a steel plate in between the coils, I used another top flatwork, the things are dead quiet, sound like singles but have about 2/3 the output of a stock single, I always wondered if the plate would have upper the output? but they are great in every other aspect and still look like singles. One day I'll redo em with a plate n see.

If you are ordering wire from mojo get some of the blade parts.
They are real cheap.
On the Blender Pot, It's just a double wiper Pot, No switch.
When You turn it one way it directs to Neck, when you turn the other it directs to bridge, with a master volume.
I guess in the middle it is going to both pickups.
I don't know how that would effect the P-Bucker.
I don't have much bass experience.
Been doing more lately.
T

[big_teee]

Yes bro, it's always a blast when you can improve someone's tone which is what it's all about hopefully. I get to do stuff for others on a very occasional basis as I live in a one horse town. WHY OH WHY

It looks like the bass I will be reworking is a Hohner b2b Headless.
T

[SonnyW]

I like the idea of this thread. Today I didn't make any pickups at all. I have been working on a custom guitar similar to a stratocaster. Four coats of nitro on the body and headstock today. It is an unfinished alder body from WD. I am doing it in transparent red. I'm up to the 14th coat so far. The neck is a Mighty Mite with ebony fingerboard and compound radius, but I'm making the headstock on it match the body. To me there's not much point in making my own necks. This guitar will have my custom single coils in the bridge and neck positions, and a new design single coil sized two blade humbucker in the middle. I haven't seen that setup yet. I am experimenting. My idea is to use a push-pull pot on the tone control to switch the middle humbucker. In the normal position, the humbucker will be split, like a regular strat. But when pulled it will be the humbucker, like a superstrat. I am thinking that the difference between having the humbucker in the middle versus the bridge won't be that significant versus a superstrat. Any comments would be welcomed.

[big_teee]

I like the idea of this thread. Today I didn't make any pickups at all. I have been working on a custom guitar similar to a stratocaster. Four coats of nitro on the body and headstock today. It is an unfinished alder body from WD. I am doing it in transparent red. I'm up to the 14th coat so far. The neck is a Mighty Mite with ebony fingerboard and compound radius, but I'm making the headstock on it match the body. To me there's not much point in making my own necks. This guitar will have my custom single coils in the bridge and neck positions, and a new design single coil sized two blade humbucker in the middle. I haven't seen that setup yet. I am experimenting. My idea is to use a push-pull pot on the tone control to switch the middle humbucker. In the normal position, the humbucker will be split, like a regular strat. But when pulled it will be the humbucker, like a superstrat. I am thinking that the difference between having the humbucker in the middle versus the bridge won't be that significant versus a superstrat. Any comments would be welcomed.

Sounds great!
Did you see my pick guard with the 2 blades and SC in the middle.
I have a mini DPDT switch that switches both blades to SC Tapped Mode.
I have it set where in SC Mode it is like a 3 SC guitar with RWRP.
In untapped mode you have 2 humbuckers and a single coil.
It has a tone I really like with the SC in the middle.
It Quacks Great in 2 & 4.
So welcome to the thread.
T

[Ward]

Nice to see someone else on the thread, this place is like a ghost town most o the time I reckon. 14 coats of nitro, you going for some kind o record, 10 is more than enough but hey, whatever paddles your oar. Today I tried to put my zebra woodys into a pickguard n put that on the guitar, I got as far as loading the guard, not even wired, it's just too stinkin cold.

[big_teee]

Howdy, Down Under!
T

[SonnyW]

Sounds great!
Did you see my pick guard with the 2 blades and SC in the middle.
I have a mini DPDT switch that switches both blades to SC Tapped Mode.
I have it set where in SC Mode it is like a 3 SC guitar with RWRP.
In untapped mode you have 2 humbuckers and a single coil.
It has a tone I really like with the SC in the middle.
It Quacks Great in 2 & 4.
So welcome to the thread.
T

No, I just now looked at it and it seems we are on to the same idea, just from opposite directions. I like it. I'm not far enough along to say what mine will sound like yet. I have a fallback plan if I can't get the humbucker part like I want though. It can be a regular strat. I haven't made any of the single coil sized blade humbuckers yet. They will have 44 Electricsola wire and ceramic mags, mostly Mojo parts. I'm chroming the blades too. I've got that part done now. So I have no idea yet what will come of that. But we will see. It may be a bust, maybe I will need to try several winds, but got to try different things or no progress will be forthcoming.

[big_teee]

No, I just now looked at it and it seems we are on to the same idea, just from opposite directions. I like it. I'm not far enough along to say what mine will sound like yet. I have a fallback plan if I can't get the humbucker part like I want though. It can be a regular strat. I haven't made any of the single coil sized blade humbuckers yet. They will have 44 Electricsola wire and ceramic mags, mostly Mojo parts. I'm chroming the blades too. I've got that part done now. So I have no idea yet what will come of that. But we will see. It may be a bust, maybe I will need to try several winds, but got to try different things or no progress will be forthcoming.

5-5.3k of 42SPN sounds real close to good Single coil neck.
I have one in my strat I play in my bedroom, it is real quite.
I have a single coil in the middle, and a full sized bucker in the bridge.
Pretty much miss fit looking, but fun to play.
T

[Ward]

Howdy, Down Under!
T

You guys enjoying the summer?

[big_teee]

At 4PM CDT it was 104 in my Shop, 113f in the shade, and my wifes Buick said it was 115f.
Too Damn Hot for me.
T