Mojotone Updates

[David Schwab]

Hi Terry,

Thanks for letting me know about this. I just fixed the dealer pricing. Like Terry has just done, anyone else who sees something wrong, please let me know and I will look into it asap. Thank you all for your support and Happy Holidays! And thank you Terry.

The gold center hole covers are still the retail price.

[big_teee]

David Shepherd said he was not working at mojo today.
He said there were still some price links that need to be corrected, and he would take care of it next time He's at mojo.
I also told him that the magnet wire has never sold at a discount.
I asked him to look into it also.
T

[David Schwab]

I also told him that the magnet wire has never sold at a discount.

I can't imagine you will get a cheaper price than from Bae Wire for he 5 lb spools. Buying a 1/2 pound spool makes no sense.

[big_teee]

Mojo sells all sizes of spools, and maybe if they start giving the dealer discount it might be worthwhile.
I only buy large spools, and price around each time before purchasing.
I usually end up buying large spools from Larry at Remington Industries.
The Small spools are not a good deal.
T

[David Schwab]

I buy from Remington sometimes, but Bae Wire is cheaper. As an example, right now Bae has 4.79 lbs of 42 AWG Heavy Formvar for $147.30. That's $30.75 a pound. Remington has 5.24 pounds of the same wire for $250.78, which is $47.85 a pound. That's $17.10 more. They list it as Elektrisola, but it's obviously been respooled, while the Bae spools are actually from Elektrisola. So I stick with bae unless they are out of something.

[big_teee]

I mainly use SPN, and HPN these days.
You can buy a 9 lb spool of 42HPN for $154.84.
You may need the vintage wire, I get by fine with the 42HPN.
It makes some great Strat Pickups.
Magnet Wire, Enameled Copper Wire, 42 AWG Heavy Build, 0.0029" Diameter, Red : Magnet Wire
9lbs will wind a lot of pickups.

[David King]

I don't see how Mojo could possibly pass on very much in the way of savings if they are paying more or less what we pay for wire. It's not like there's a 100% markup to work with. Maybe if they were buying 1000s of pounds at a time but they aren't. Shipping wire pretty much kills any profit they could stand to make off it. They can't sell it at a loss unless they could somehow recoup the losses on other parts they sell which they might do at retail but probably not at wholesale pricing.

I'm spoiled by all the 10-12lb Essex spools I got off Ebay for less than $60 delivered. That's the price I'd like to keep paying if I can. Having to pay $17/lb for it from BAE or Remington is a bummer...

[big_teee]

I don't see how Mojo could possibly pass on very much in the way of savings if they are paying more or less what we pay for wire. It's not like there's a 100% markup to work with. Maybe if they were buying 1000s of pounds at a time but they aren't. Shipping wire pretty much kills any profit they could stand to make off it. They can't sell it at a loss unless they could somehow recoup the losses on other parts they sell which they might do at retail but probably not at wholesale pricing.

The way they would make a profit, is to buy direct from Elektrisola.
They can get it at the same price as Remington, BAE, and MWS.
They are much higher than what the others sell for.
They would sell a lot more wire if they would discount the wire just like they discount the rest of their parts.
Competition is what makes the world go around!
T

[David King]

Well it's a good way to tie up a lot of cash in inventory that's for sure. Oddly enough Nordstrand bought some wire from Mojo a while back but his cnc winder could only handle 5" spools and Mojo's wire was on 6" spools. Again it's the reshipping that kills these deals. Ideally we could all buy directly from the manufacturers but someone has to put the spool in a box inside another box with padding and get the right address on it and make sure it's been paid for. That person need to get paid as well. If the reseller lived next door to the Electrisola plant then the math would work out better for us.

[big_teee]

David Shepherd fixed the pricing errors.
Everything should now how discount prices for dealers.
With the Exception of the Magnet Wire.
On the wire David King is correct.
They pay similar prices to what we buy it for.
So Mojo can't discount the wire any further.
T

[David Schwab]

I mainly use SPN, and HPN these days.
You can buy a 9 lb spool of 42HPN for $154.84.
You may need the vintage wire, I get by fine with the 42HPN.
It makes some great Strat Pickups.
Magnet Wire, Enameled Copper Wire, 42 AWG Heavy Build, 0.0029" Diameter, Red : Magnet Wire
9lbs will wind a lot of pickups.

I pretty much only use SPN. I only picked the heavy Formvar to use an an example because they both had large rolls listed. Bae didn't have any large rolls of SPN listed on their eBay page. But if you contact them you can get anything.

I made another post showing how Remington was more expensive per pound on SPN on smaller rolls too.

Still, it's nice to have an alternate source. But you are wasting money if you buy from a vendor that charges more for the exact same wire.

Formvar is not vintage wire. It's just a different coating. Heavy SPN will sound exactly the same.

[big_teee]

Sounds like we shop the same way
If you can buy a 9 lb roll of 42HPN cheaper than $154.84 buy it.
I don't think you will find it cheaper than that.
Each time I've bought large rolls of SPN, and HPN wire, I've always got 3 prices.
One from MWS (Diana), BAE (Teena), and Remington (Larry).
I've always got the best price on the particular product I was buying that day from Remington.
Your mileage may vary.
It is important to always price around, right before the purchase.
That's what I do.
I get verbal, or email quotes, not just prices showed on the net.
T

[David Schwab]

I tend to not buy the big rolls. They always seem to snag more often than the smaller rolls.

[big_teee]

I like 5-6 lb rolls.
I agree the 9 lb roll is too big for my setup, but it is priced right.
I had one 7lb defective roll that broke everytime it went to one end.
It was from remington, I sent it in and they sent me a new one.
Eeezy Peezy!
I have about 10 big rolls of wire, and I alternate them a lot, depending on what I'm winding.
I've been using a lot of 43SPN lately.
It will probably be the next roll replaced.
I have a 2 lb roll of 44, it will last me a long time.
The 42 and 43 I get in large 5-7 lb rolls.
Diana used to give good deals at MWS, but she seems to have gotten over it.
Teena at BAE and Larry at Remington will both deal with you.
Later,
T

[kayakerca]

I like 5-6 lb rolls.
I agree the 9 lb roll is too big for my setup, but it is priced right.
I had one 7lb defective roll that broke everytime it went to one end.
It was from remington, I sent it in and they sent me a new one.
Eeezy Peezy!
I have about 10 big rolls of wire, and I alternate them a lot, depending on what I'm winding.
I've been using a lot of 43SPN lately.
It will probably be the next roll replaced.
I have a 2 lb roll of 44, it will last me a long time.
The 42 and 43 I get in large 5-7 lb rolls.
Diana used to give good deals at MWS, but she seems to have gotten over it.
Teena at BAE and Larry at Remington will both deal with you.
Later,
T

A few months ago I was asking Remington if they sold AWG 42 SPN as the I could only find Polyurethane (MW-79-C) on their website and none of the Polyurethane Nylon (NEMA MW80C). Being one of the not totally literate newbie winders, I asked what the difference was between the two. I was told "It is P [that Remington carries] and does not have the nylon overcoat. This is what Elektrisola puts on, Poly and they tell us the reason is that is it higher quality than the PN. They usually put PN on wire sizes 32 and heavier." I was still left wondering what makes the "P" higher quality than "PN" and also I really didn't take it as any kind of an answer. Six months later I'm no smarter as I'm still not sure what the character or property difference is and how it impacts the type of coils we wind and why Polyurethane alone makes a better insulator that Polyurethane Nylon.

Any knowledge to be imparted here would be very much appreciated. I like to learn.