Optimum distance from spindle to wire guide?

Viktor Johanson · 02-10-2009, 02:08 PM

By "wire guide" I mean the lateral stops between which I manually guide the wire when winding. (It's the same type of setup as the one on the Schatten winder.) I've been having some problems with the wire wanting to jump off the bobbin when winding (despite having the stops set properly), and I'm thinking maybe I should move the guides.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Dave Kerr · 02-10-2009, 06:16 PM

Don't know if it's optimal, but like someone suggested long ago I put the spool on end on the floor (inside a plastic coffee can), let it feed through a loop in my left hand between thumb and index finger (think the OK sign, or Italian sign for arse - whichever suits) and tension/guide between right thumb and index finger.

Viktor Johanson · 02-10-2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Kerr

Don't know if it's optimal, but like someone suggested long ago I put the spool on end on the floor (inside a plastic coffee can), let it feed through a loop in my left hand between thumb and index finger (think the OK sign, or Italian sign for arse - whichever suits) and tension/guide between right thumb and index finger.

Thank you! How far is it then between your right hand and the spindle of your winder?

Dave Kerr · 02-10-2009, 07:57 PM

Maybe 6-8 inches

David Schwab · 02-11-2009, 03:29 AM

On the Schatten, it's 5.25" from the axel to the wire guide. I think I also hold my hand about 6 to 8 inches behind that.

I find if I'm winding a shallow bobbin fast, I need to set the stops a little narrower or I sometimes have the wire pull right out from between my fingers and wrap around the bobbin.

I hate when that happens.

David King · 02-11-2009, 06:56 AM

My winder plate is 5" in dia and the guides are just outside of that so less than 3" to the center. I never have hang-up or a jumped wire even at 1700 rpm. I need to find a plastic jug to cut the bottom out of and place over the spool, that's a great idea. I think a 1 gal clorox or white vinegar bottle should do the trick once I de-burr the top with a blowtorch.

Viktor Johanson · 02-11-2009, 07:50 AM

THANK YOU! It's so nice to have a bunch of helpful Daves to assist you

02-10-2009, 02:08 PM	#1
Viktor Johanson Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8	Optimum distance from spindle to wire guide? By "wire guide" I mean the lateral stops between which I manually guide the wire when winding. (It's the same type of setup as the one on the Schatten winder.) I've been having some problems with the wire wanting to jump off the bobbin when winding (despite having the stops set properly), and I'm thinking maybe I should move the guides. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

02-11-2009, 03:29 AM	#5
David Schwab Pickup Maker Join Date: May 2006 Location: Montclair, NJ Posts: 5,602	On the Schatten, it's 5.25" from the axel to the wire guide. I think I also hold my hand about 6 to 8 inches behind that. I find if I'm winding a shallow bobbin fast, I need to set the stops a little narrower or I sometimes have the wire pull right out from between my fingers and wrap around the bobbin. I hate when that happens. __________________ Those who create are rare; those who cannot are numerous. Therefore, the latter are stronger. - Coco Chanel www.sgd-lutherie.com www.myspace.com/sgdlutherie www.myspace.com/davidschwab

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02-10-2009, 06:16 PM	#2
Dave Kerr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 376 Member's Picture Albums	Don't know if it's optimal, but like someone suggested long ago I put the spool on end on the floor (inside a plastic coffee can), let it feed through a loop in my left hand between thumb and index finger (think the OK sign, or Italian sign for arse - whichever suits) and tension/guide between right thumb and index finger.

02-10-2009, 07:57 PM	#4
Dave Kerr Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 376 Member's Picture Albums	Maybe 6-8 inches

02-11-2009, 06:56 AM	#6
David King Old Timer Join Date: May 2006 Location: PDX Posts: 1,256	My winder plate is 5" in dia and the guides are just outside of that so less than 3" to the center. I never have hang-up or a jumped wire even at 1700 rpm. I need to find a plastic jug to cut the bottom out of and place over the spool, that's a great idea. I think a 1 gal clorox or white vinegar bottle should do the trick once I de-burr the top with a blowtorch.

02-11-2009, 07:50 AM	#7
Viktor Johanson Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8	THANK YOU! It's so nice to have a bunch of helpful Daves to assist you

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