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    Quote Originally Posted by g1 View Post
    I sooo want a cell phone with a dial now. Is there such a thing?
    Real pimps rock a DynaTAC:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob p View Post
    obsolete?!?
    What???
    Donīt you own a read-your-mind phone Grandpa??????
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    When it comes to the topic of this thread, the inimitable Vinh Bui stands alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTfK...=RDqTfKTKGyJIs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnobuddy View Post
    When it comes to the topic of this thread, the inimitable Vinh Bui stands alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTfK...=RDqTfKTKGyJIs

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    That has to be crushing for the poor guys ego.
    Experience is something you get, just after you really needed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J M Fahey View Post
    What???
    Donīt you own a read-your-mind phone Grandpa??????
    Hell No!

    I used to have a high tech cell phone with voice activated dialing. I got rid of it when it dialed out without me knowing, and my GF's answering machine recorded a half hour conversation that I wish she had not heard. Evidently the phone heard me say "I'm not going to call Julie, she doesn't need to know about this..." The phone recognized the embedded keywords "call Julie" in my conversation and decided to call Julie for me. Even though the phone was still in the pocket of my jeans, it heard my conversation and dialed out for me -- and the mic picked up the entire conversation.

    That led to a bad outcome.

    I don't like having microphones planted all over my house, in the form of auto-dialing cell phones, voice-activated TV remotes, Amazon Alexa, Siri, etc. Automatically activated microphones are a bad idea. To hell with convenience, I want a phone that makes me jump through hoops to dial because I prefer that the conversations that take place in my house are never heard by anyone who is not in the room.

    I've gotten rid everything that has an electronically controlled mic, and I only use phones like this:



    It's hack proof. And idiot proof.
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    You need a Red Phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob p View Post
    Real pimps rock a DynaTAC:
    I'll take one if I can get it with a dial.
    I hope you're not on a party line Bob, all that lo-fi security just goes right out the window.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g1 View Post
    I sooo want a cell phone with a dial now. Is there such a thing?
    I think this is as close as you can get.
    Phone iPhone SE Case (rotary dial)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickb View Post
    That has to be crushing for the poor guys ego.
    I've actually worried about this a few times. Clearly the fellow was more than a little out of touch with reality. I hope he was able to cope with the impact of his sudden and unwanted fame (!), and that it didn't cause him too much damage. I don't know how emotionally fragile a person he might have been.

    Hopefully, he woke up to the fact that he'd have to look beyond music for a future (or start to put in the hard work it takes to become a decent musician).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosaj View Post
    You need a Red Phone.
    Like this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob p View Post
    I've gotten rid everything that has an electronically controlled mic
    There is a good chance your vehicle (car/truck/suv) includes electronically controlled microphones, and it / they are not entirely under your control.

    Remember when GM introduced their OnStar (TM) service, quite a few years ago? They promised to hold your hand and coddle you if you ever had an accident, ran out of gas, got stranded in the snow, or whatever. What they didn't stress was that, in order to do these loving and kindly things for you, they had to (a) be able to know where your car was at all times, and (b) be able to talk and listen to you at their discretion, for example, to find out if you had been incapacitated as the result of a crash, and needed rescue services to be notified.

    OnStar is now, I believe standard across all GM vehicles. Your vehicle location is almost certainly determined via GPS chips built into the vehicle electronics, which transmit your coordinates to whomever is monitoring your vehicle. GPS chips are now tiny, and dirt-cheap.

    Subsequently, it came out in Los Angeles Times newspaper articles about a big drug bust, that the police were able to listen in to drug-dealers having incriminating conversations inside their own vehicles, using the microphone and transmitter built into OnStar. It is not entirely clear whether the police require a warrant to listen to you inside your own car or not - but it is almost certain that a feature such as this will be widely abused, especially in the surveillance state that the USA has become. In any event, the take-away is that people sitting in an office building far away from you have the ability to listen to both track and listen to you wherever you go in your vehicle.

    Ford subsequently introduced some similar "service". I'm not familiar with what other manufacturers say they offer, but I have no doubt that, at this point, all new vehicles sold in North America have built-in location tracking and spy microphones built in.

    A few years ago, I moved from the USA to Canada. I wanted to find out whether I could bring my car with me, or not, so I looked for the Canadian government's requirements on importing cars from the USA. One of the interesting things I found was that any car made after a specified year (I forget the year, it was something like 2006, IIRC) was required to have "remote shut-down capability" in order to import it legally into Canada. In other words, the car can have a radio signal sent to it by the authorities, which tells the engine computer to shut down, and stops the car.

    I didn't look for similar information on the US side of things - and the US government has plenty of secrets, so they may not make such information public. But I did watch an online documentary film about automotive technology which showed police (in the USA) remotely stopping a stolen SUV via a radio transmission. Not only did they stop it, they turned on the hazard warning lights remotely too, to let following traffic know the vehicle was about to slow down and stop.

    At this point in time, the logical conclusion is that your late-model vehicle is most likely snitching on you continuously, and can be remotely controlled by anyone with the right access. And I don't mean idiot teenage hackers, I mean police and other authorities.

    You might have to buy a 1970 Dodge Challenger to go with those rotary phones.

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    I don't drive a late model car -- not because I'm worrying about the surveillance State, but because I think old cars are cool and compared to the price of buying new, it's an order of magnitude cheaper for me to drive an old classic. I looked at a 2017 Suburban and I didn't really like the current model. When I saw the $70,000 price tag I decided it was cheaper to restore a vintage vehicle. I seriously doubt whether I'll ever bother buying a late model car. Modern manufacturing costs are expensive, insurance is expensive, licensing is expensive. Old classic cars are cheaper to buy, cheaper to insure and cheaper to license. All things considered, I'd rather drive that 1970s Challenger than the 2017 Challenger Hellcat that costs $70,000.

    On the subject of remotely disabling cars, the cops learned their mistake from O.J. His getaway was a farce that left egg on their faces, and they don't want to go through such high profile embarrassment another time.

    The remote shutdown technology is interesting. Chances are that that feature would never be used on your car or my car, but we are still forced to pay to have that technology built into the car without regard for our preferences, and without regard for whether or not the technology will ever be needed in our vehicles. Someone, somewhere has decided that we all have to have that technology embedded in our cars for the benefit of the State, just in case some policeman might want to use it someday. We aren't given a choice to opt out of having the technology installed, it's put in automatically. The cost of capturing one bad guy is has evolved into a socialized risk premium that's embedded into the cost of every new vehicle. That's just one more reason that the cost of new cars is running out of control.

    It would be interesting to know whether the remote shutdown requirement is the car manufacturers' doing, or whether it's part of a governmental mandate in the USA as it appears to be in Canada.

    BTW, OJ's getaway car is up for sale now.

    White Bronco used in O.J. Simpson chase is up for sale - Aug. 10, 2017
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